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Re Trump's most recent Haley attack, Haley's not a lot better. She's claiming:
"I've been a two-term governor that took a double-digit unemployment state and turned it into an economic powerhouse," she told Fox News Digital.
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Anyone fact checked this claim? I don't buy it.

"When you talk about the economy and inflation, you look at the fact that Biden didn't just do this to us, Republicans did this to us, too."
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I don't get that second sentence except the GOP candidates are trying to minimize Biden's economic successes. I guess she's going after her GOP rivals as well.

This is typical campaign slogan-ing.
We have to make sure that we stop the spending, we stop the borrowing, we eliminate the earmarks."

She added: "I'll veto any spending bill that doesn't take us back to pre-COVID levels."
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Yeah right. :rolleyes:

"I’ve sat across the table and negotiated with China and Russia.
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It's all typical crap.

Fox for all the quotes
 
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"I've been a two-term governor that took a double-digit unemployment state and turned it into an economic powerhouse," she told Fox News Digital.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Re Trump's most recent Haley attack, Haley's not a lot better. She's claiming: Anyone fact checked this claim? I don't buy it.
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It is true that the unemployment rate in South Carolina dropped from around 10 percent to under 5 percent while Haley was governor. But the unemployment rate for the entire USA dropped from around 10 percent to under 5 percent during the same period. Haley became governor about the time when the recovery from the Great Recession began. No matter who was governor, there would have been a substantial improvement in the unemployment rate.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
It is true that the unemployment rate in South Carolina dropped from around 10 percent to under 5 percent while Haley was governor. But the unemployment rate for the entire USA dropped from around 10 percent to under 5 percent during the same period. Haley became governor about the time when the recovery from the Great Recession began. No matter who was governor, there would have been a substantial improvement in the unemployment rate.
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Thank you. It's what I suspected.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Re Trump's most recent Haley attack, Haley's not a lot better. She's claiming: Anyone fact checked this claim? I don't buy it.
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Its not hard to believe. She took over as governor as the USA was still climbing out of the GFC. Unemployment drastically dropped during her 6 years as SC Governor... true, but what did she do to make that happen??
 
Haley seems to be surging in New Hampshire; a recent CNN poll had her within seven percentage points, and the RCP polling average has her about 14 points behind in the Granite State, but obviously with all the momentum. She would seem likely to pick up much of Chris Christie's voters as he drops out and manages to comment into a hot mike that she was going to "get smoked."
Haley might be the best chance to hold off Trumpocalypse.
 
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Haley seems to be surging in New Hampshire; a recent CNN poll had her within seven percentage points, and the RCP polling average has her about 14 points behind in the Granite State, but obviously with all the momentum. She would seem likely to pick up much of Chris Christie's voters as he drops out and manages to comment into a hot mike that she was going to "get smoked."
Haley might be the best chance to hold of Trumpocalypse.
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Nah. Haley is appealing to wealthier, educated Republicans, or which New Hampshire has a good number of. Haley will do well there.

After that it will be Nevada and South Carolina, where the MAGAs swarm. Haley will crash and burn there barring a lucky cheeseburger.
 
Meanwhile, the Democrats have moved on from merely rigging primaries for Biden to outright cancelling them for him... while claiming to be the line of defense for "democracy".
 
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Nah. Haley is appealing to wealthier, educated Republicans, or which New Hampshire has a good number of. Haley will do well there.

After that it will be Nevada and South Carolina, where the MAGAs swarm. Haley will crash and burn there barring a lucky cheeseburger.
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She was governor of South Carolina. Probably still pretty popular there.
 
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Meanwhile, the Democrats have moved on from merely rigging primaries for Biden to outright cancelling them for him... while claiming to be the line of defense for "democracy".
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Is that democratic though? Primaries were largely a response to a more fundamental problem (and an ineffectual response at that). I would be OK with parties selecting their candidates in smoke-filled backrooms, provided we had more than four or five viable choices. Currently, primaries are not democratically representative because of the relatively few self-selected voters who participate in them. What's democratic about having candidates chosen by 10% of voters?
 
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Is that democratic though? Primaries were largely a response to a more fundamental problem (and an ineffectual response at that). I would be OK with parties selecting their candidates in smoke-filled backrooms, provided we had more than four or five viable choices. Currently, primaries are not democratically representative because of the relatively few self-selected voters who participate in them. What's democratic about having candidates chosen by 10% of voters?
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Coming from a country where we routinely have 16 parties represented in the parliament, I would say that this phenomenon is a result of an election system that favours having only two parties. But I agree, it seems not very democratic, although there are advantages when it works, which it currently doesn’t - again in my biased view.
 
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