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Reading some of the excerpts from Trump speeches about magnets and water, and what comes through the air and whatnot…. in my time as an EMT, I had patients undergoing psychotic breaks that made more sense. I am not diagnosing, but I could believe something like tertiary syphilis or vascular dementia. Or both.
 
Reading some of the excerpts from Trump speeches about magnets and water, and what comes through the air and whatnot…. in my time as an EMT, I had patients undergoing psychotic breaks that made more sense. I am not diagnosing, but I could believe something like tertiary syphilis or vascular dementia. Or both.

Maybe wind turbine noise gave him brain cancer.
 
Listened to a Youtube bit on Fox. Recent.

The Fox lady is actually right. Biden should leave the anti-Trump comments to a deep voiced ad on TV. For his own speeches, he needs to focus on things he will do. The economy is not actually in bad shape, but pick out some consumer related items. Just before the election, BLAST the TV ads with Trump is a dictator ads. y
 
How are the wars playing out in USA, particularly among younger voters?

While America isn't directly involved in either, it's spending a lot of money supporting a side in each one.
 
Listened to a Youtube bit on Fox. Recent.

The Fox lady is actually right. Biden should leave the anti-Trump comments to a deep voiced ad on TV. For his own speeches, he needs to focus on things he will do. The economy is not actually in bad shape, but pick out some consumer related items. Just before the election, BLAST the TV ads with Trump is a dictator ads. y
Couldn't disagree more. "Will you shut up, man?" won Biden his election. "Going high" lost Hillary hers. Fox is fully aware of this. In a weird way they have their thumb more firmly on the pulse of the electorate than anyone else, albeit in order to strangle it more effectively.
 
How are the wars playing out in USA, particularly among younger voters?

While America isn't directly involved in either, it's spending a lot of money supporting a side in each one.
Most Americans were in favor of supporting Ukraine at first, but, as it became clear that the USA was contributing only enough to keep the war going indefinitely rather than to win, most have turned against it. And most were against supporting Israel's genocide of the Palestinians from the start, which Biden not only has kept supporting but even done an end-run around Congress to do so. So he's throwing away re-election votes on both.
 
Couldn't disagree more. "Will you shut up, man?" won Biden his election. "Going high" lost Hillary hers. Fox is fully aware of this. In a weird way they have their thumb more firmly on the pulse of the electorate than anyone else, albeit in order to strangle it more effectively.

It was effective then, Biden was the challenger. This is now.
Biden: Trump will be the end of democracy. He is dangerous.
Millennial voter: Are you kidding? Deep state runs everything. Corporations will buy all the people in congress.

Fox is evil, but here is the video where a somewhat experienced guest seems to see "the democracy thing" as so 2020. (Only Jan 6th was after that!)

https://youtu.be/_Hjzg_ThZ-M

I believe it is Rebekah Castor. She loses her argument when it just repeats Fox lies on inflation and Hunter Biden.
 
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Most Americans were in favor of supporting Ukraine at first, but, as it became clear that the USA was contributing only enough to keep the war going indefinitely rather than to win, most have turned against it. And most were against supporting Israel's genocide of the Palestinians from the start, which Biden not only has kept supporting but even done an end-run around Congress to do so. So he's throwing away re-election votes on both.

If things are similar in USA to what's being seen here, younger voters have little interest in Ukraine, but are overwhelmingly against Israel's genocide, so it's a dangerous path for Biden to stay on.
 
If things are similar in USA to what's being seen here, younger voters have little interest in Ukraine, but are overwhelmingly against Israel's genocide, so it's a dangerous path for Biden to stay on.

Polls show no change in Biden's approval which could be linked to Israel conflict .. so I guess it's not so overwhelming or it's not serious issue. Or at least not for people who still consider voting for Biden.
 
Polls show no change in Biden's approval which could be linked to Israel conflict
It was already declining before and has declined more since, so all that the highlighted part means is that when the same candidate is throwing away votes in multiple ways you might not be able to determine how much of it is from each of the multiple causes.

I do know the change was remarkably sudden & drastic among Arab & Muslim Americans, but there might not be enough of those to affect the big picture... except maybe in Michigan... which happens to be one of the few states that will probably decide the outcome. And, although I've seen people in those on-the-street interviews talking about why they won't vote for Biden before, this is the first issue on which I've seen people indicating that they previously could still have been convinced if he were to change something but now can't see any way they could ever consider it in the future, with phrases like "how can I ever justify voting for him after this". So even if it doesn't add any more new non-Biden voters, it could still have burned bridges so now he can't get them back anymore.

And I do believe I saw his approval leveling off briefly before this started and then it began descending again, but I'm not going to try to find enough old timestamped polls to show that or show its opposite. The bottom line is the same in either case: he's a spectacularly awful excuse for a candidate who keeps finding new ways to be even worse. (And the irony is that he's said he probably wouldn't be running if Trump weren't because he just needs to make sure Trump doesn't get back in... while he himself is in the process of making sure to personally put Trump back in.)
 
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Biden's speech today in the church that people were shot and killed in was actually pretty good. There was a point about 10 min in when he appeared to have lost what he was saying. But if you listen to what he was talking about, he was actually choked up talking about his son Beau.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlbyxaQiUkk if you prefer.

The crowd chanted "4 more years" after some hecklers were removed when they protested against Biden's action re Israel.

I had not been aware Biden had actually worshipped in the same church in the past. It wasn't just a photo-op as near as I could tell. It was when he was VP so maybe it was an official visit, I don't know. But he talked like he'd been there more than once.
 
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Biden's speech today in the church that people were shot and killed in was actually pretty good. There was a point about 10 min in when he appeared to have lost what he was saying. But if you listen to what he was talking about, he was actually choked up talking about his son Beau.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlbyxaQiUkk if you prefer.

The crowd chanted "4 more years" after some hecklers were removed when they protested against Biden's action re Israel.

I had not been aware Biden had actually worshipped in the same church in the past. It wasn't just a photo-op as near as I could tell. It was when he was VP so maybe it was an official visit, I don't know. But he talked like he'd been there more than once.

I'm an atheist. And one of the things I don't like about Biden is that he is a devout Catholic.

But I like far less about Trump is he's a phony Christian. By that, I'm not saying Trump is a Christian. He's not and never has been. But he waves the Bible and professes himself to be. He doesn't know scripture. He doesn't read the Bible and has never attended church regularly. The Bible is very clear that the Lord hates a fork tongue. Thou shall not bear false witness. He has been a repetitive adulterer. He doesn't practice forgiveness of others.

He is the least Christian President the United States has ever had. And I'm very confident that a couple of other Presidents were Christian in name only.
 
Nikki Haley: "Trump was the right president for the right time."

Oh, please. He was NEVER that even before J6.
 
Liz Cheney said today on The View that she's not endorsing anyone right now but that she'd never vote for Trump and that it's imperative the Republicans lose the House majority in 2025. I think she's waiting to see who the actual GOP nominee will be. If it's Trump, I think she'll endorse Biden which is something no one could even imagine pre-J6. As she said, we can survive and work with a Dem president and legislation, but we can't survive a second Trump presidency. Especially if the GOP also controls Congress.
 
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