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Brainster said:
It's not the Democrats' fault but at this point I do think they are the only ones who can fix it. The Republicans aren't going to get off the crazy train until it crashes.
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That’s a ridiculously unfair burden. Conservatives have spent decades poisoning the minds of the American electorate with lies and propaganda and Trump was a natural consequence of that. The likes of Fox New primed millions of people to put us in exactly the position we’re in now.

Until Republicans start getting serious about cleaning house and telling the truth to themselves and their constituents, the best we’re going to do is limp along, skirting the edge of collapsing into an autocracy.

The irony of course is that most of the garbage being regurgitated in this thread about Biden being a senile invalid is part of that same propaganda machine that conservatives refuse to do anything about.
 
Orphia Nay said:
The reason it's close is because in the US you have to be a member of a party to vote. ....
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That's only true in the primaries where the parties are electing their candidates.

Combined with gerrymandered districts however, it means running to be the party's nominee can mean a candidate in the GOP is running to the extreme right because that's who have taken over the GOP. And that means we get these horribly skewed legislators in Congress.

In the Senate it's skewed because no matter the population in the state, each state gets 2 Senators.

IOW the system is FUBAR on multiple levels. It's an uphill battle for sanity to prevail.
 
Right now, sanity has lost bigly when it comes to the GOP. They're controlled by a sick, sick and dangerous lunatic.
 
Stacyhs said:
Right now, sanity has lost bigly when it comes to the GOP. They're controlled by a sick, sick and dangerous lunatic.
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Indeed. Despite their best efforts to find a bigger lunatic (Vivek, for example, and DeSantis is doing his best albeit with all the charisma of a dumpster).
 
Craig4 said:
The largest section of the electorate is "Independent" at about 46 percent (https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx). In most states, the largest section of voters doesn't decide who will be in the general election.
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I think Orph's point is that in other countries, the requirement and process to register to vote is entirely outside and independent of any political party structure or operation. It is the same as registering a birth, death or marriage - an independent and apolitical public service process.

In Australia, compulsory voting means political parties do not have to chase up or assist voters to register and vote. Eligible citizens will be registered and must vote anyway. So instead, the parties have to concentrate on all the other things political parties usually do...shouting at each other, false advertising, going on TV, making accusations, shouting at each other, waving placards, pleading, making speeches, being stupid, shouting at each other, blah blah blah.
 
In US, Joe Manchin is not running for re-election. Thought there would be a thread on that since it's a one seat margin and I don't see how another Democrat will take his place there.

Then you have the presidential election, so if Trump wins, and it's another 50-50 (which it's been close to for a long while).

Kind of like a game of Pick Up Sticks, or Jenga. Any little move can bring everything down. See House Speaker and the prospect of continuing federal government funding.
 
It did happen once. And if both of them live long enough it may happen again.

I can't stress more how bad things will get if Trump wins. Everybody knows. I believe he could do it again with the electoral college.

And yeah people are saying Biden should set down his Aviators and let somebody else take over. But who is that going to jump in on such short notice, with a realistic chance? Gimme a name?

Sanders, never. Jeffries, nobody really knows him and way too soon, maybe someday. Anyway, it's not like there's a chance that Biden will walk up to the podium and say "I'm done, I'm dropping out."
 
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Dr.Sid said:
Thanks for doing my homework. Sounds even creepier now. :thumbsup:
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I see. That's a "I have no reasonable response so I'll just make what I think is a witty comeback to get in the last word and hope no one notices" response. No thanks, but you be you.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
That's only true in the primaries where the parties are electing their candidates.
Combined with gerrymandered districts however, it means running to be the party's nominee can mean a candidate in the GOP is running to the extreme right because that's who have taken over the GOP. And that means we get these horribly skewed legislators in Congress.

In the Senate it's skewed because no matter the population in the state, each state gets 2 Senators.

IOW the system is FUBAR on multiple levels. It's an uphill battle for sanity to prevail.
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Even that's only true in 7 states.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/state-primary-election-types
 
PitPat said:
In US, Joe Manchin is not running for re-election. Thought there would be a thread on that since it's a one seat margin and I don't see how another Democrat will take his place there.

Then you have the presidential election, so if Trump wins, and it's another 50-50 (which it's been close to for a long while).

Kind of like a game of Pick Up Sticks, or Jenga. Any little move can bring everything down. See House Speaker and the prospect of continuing federal government funding.
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Manchin was unlikely to win reelction regardless. He was almost certainly going to be running against Jim Justice, the current governor of West Virginia.

Now the only dem running is a Marine Corp FAST veteran, a working class progressive, who also quotes John Brown. Which, while sounding perfect to me, might be a long shot in the general election. Not to say there is a better option for West Virginia; a performative 'moderate' isn't going to win anyone away from Justice. A working class progressive is the best chance.
 
Stacyhs said:
I see. That's a "I have no reasonable response so I'll just make what I think is a witty comeback to get in the last word and hope no one notices" response. No thanks, but you be you.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
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No, I clearly stated my position is unchanged. Creepy uncle touching girls is not better if the girl says she doesn't mind.
 
Dr.Sid said:
No, I clearly stated my position is unchanged. Creepy uncle touching girls is not better if the girl says she doesn't mind.
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I had a thread on Creepy Joe when he was running for 2020 and I stand by the point I made at the time:

If any other adult male touched little girls the way Joe Biden touches little girls, he would either cop a fist in the face or a visit from the police.

I was amazed the Republicans didn't make more of it at the time, but maybe the Republicans were scared that an attack on Biden as a sexual predator might backfire on the fact that their bloke was a sexual predator as well.

The Dems don't care, so it's a lost cause. It's just a nice old man who likes to touch pre-pubescent girls' chests and kiss and sniff their hair.

A few years back, our bloke pulled an adult ponytail and half the country wanted him to fall on his sword.
 
The Atheist said:
I had a thread on Creepy Joe when he was running for 2020 and I stand by the point I made at the time:

If any other adult male touched little girls the way Joe Biden touches little girls, he would either cop a fist in the face or a visit from the police.

I was amazed the Republicans didn't make more of it at the time, but maybe the Republicans were scared that an attack on Biden as a sexual predator might backfire on the fact that their bloke was a sexual predator as well.

The Dems don't care, so it's a lost cause. It's just a nice old man who likes to touch pre-pubescent girls' chests and kiss and sniff their hair.

A few years back, our bloke pulled an adult ponytail and half the country wanted him to fall on his sword.
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you're not really aware of religious communities in the US, are you?
 
Dr.Sid said:
Obama would have eaten Trump alive in a discussion. Biden is glad he remembers his own name. He's just not the best speaker. He's barely A speaker. Though to be fair, it's still fine as long as he reads.
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Trump has now said in speeches seven times that he beat Obama in the 2016 election.
 
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