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2018 US Senate Elections Thread

And it often fails.
I think if you support a creep like Blankenship for ANY reason, you stain yourself.

It's more successful than you give it credit. Are the policies of the GOP likely to be much different regardless which of these Republicans might be elected? While I don't believe in lying, I have no problem supporting the least electable candidate in the opposition in the primary so my candidate can win in the General Election.

Give me their Roy Moores, David Dukes, Don Blankenships and Sherriff Arpaios. And I get a Democratic Congress.
 
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It's more successful than you give it credit. Are the policies of the GOP likely to be much different regardless which of these Republicans might be elected? While I don't believe in lying, I have no problem supporting the least electable candidate in the opposition in the primary so my candidate can win in the General Election.

Give me their Roy Moores, David Dukes, Don Blankenships and Sherriff Arpaios. And I get a Democratic Congress.

Or you get a Democratic minority with the Steve Kings, Devin Nunes, Louie Gohmerts and Jeff Sessions in the driver's seat.

Be careful what you wish for.
 
Or you get a Democratic minority with the Steve Kings, Devin Nunes, Louie Gohmerts and Jeff Sessions in the driver's seat.

Be careful what you wish for.

Trump was "too extreme" to win also.
People like Arpaio or Blankenship get near to office is a stupid, dangerous thing to do. It's like letting a fire go out of control because you think the wind will blow it in the other direction.
 
CLaire McCaskell was called a "Lucky Duck" by a retired Republican official because the Missouri GOP is imploding over the Scandals engulfing Governor Greitans, and the party splitting into pro and anti Greitans factions, with the leading Senatorial Candidate being very critical of Greitans. (Despite the fact the guy was Greitans attorney general).
Can'r dispute that McCaskell is indeed a lucky duck with the way her opponents have of imploding.
 
He is still the favorite but no doubt the Carpetbagger issue hurt him.

The carpetbagger issue hurt him with the attendees of the nominating convention - a weird lot who are holding onto power, desperately. They are about as representative of the population (not just the general public but specifically the Republican population) as the caucus voters in Washington State and Nevada were representative of the Democratic Party in 2016. In short, not at all.

Coverage of the event had more attendees concerned that Mitt's team went to gathering signatures, which is allowed now as an alternative to getting the nomination at the convention. Seems that they want the populous option thrown out and want to control the nominations from the convention, solely.

I don't think the carpetbagger issue is going to hurt. Mormons travel and return all the time. He came home to the Olympics, which is a bigger plus than the fact that he had to "come home". He's got family ties in the state. Hell, his daddy was adored in Utah and he, too, was a governor of another state.

I doubt he'll have the slightest trouble winning the primary, and maybe it'll wake the state GOP up to the fact that the recalcitrant old farts running the show are past their Best By date.
 
In West Virginia, most recent polls show Blankenship a pretty distant third in the GOP race.
 
Anyone from Texas who can give more information? Is there some local issue which is helping the Democrats?

I really can't. I know Cruz isn't popular, generally. And Texas isn't too far removed from Ann Richards being our governor, at least to us old people.

Beto seems to strike a chord, he seems more genuine than Cruz by a mile.

I'd really like to put some Lyin' Ted signs in my front yard, we'll see.
 
I really can't. I know Cruz isn't popular, generally. And Texas isn't too far removed from Ann Richards being our governor, at least to us old people.

Beto seems to strike a chord, he seems more genuine than Cruz by a mile.

I'd really like to put some Lyin' Ted signs in my front yard, we'll see.

Do Republican Texans care that Trump viciously insulted Cruz's wife and father, and Cruz now says glowing things about him? Do they had that against Trump (for attacking him) or Cruz (for being spineless)? I would think that would be off-putting, no matter what political leanings one has.
 
What's is helping the Democrats in Texas is the polls being on registered voters and not on likely voters. From 15.2 million registered voters, only 9 millions actually voted in the last elections, one of the lowest turn-outs in the country.

Though Beto (pronounced /'beto/ and not /'biːtoʊ/) seems to enjoy the same popularity than Cruz among registered voters in spite of his very liberal message, when it translates to votes...

Anyway, ¡Viva Beto!
 
Do Republican Texans care that Trump viciously insulted Cruz's wife and father, and Cruz now says glowing things about him? Do they had that against Trump (for attacking him) or Cruz (for being spineless)? I would think that would be off-putting, no matter what political leanings one has.

I really have a hard time knowing. I don't want to get into political conversations with friends, family, or clients so I don't have a good feel for that. I think people either agree with Trump that he is lying Ted or they see what a boot licker he is and find it unbecoming. Trump has not been good for Ted.

What's is helping the Democrats in Texas is the polls being on registered voters and not on likely voters. From 15.2 million registered voters, only 9 millions actually voted in the last elections, one of the lowest turn-outs in the country.

Though Beto (pronounced /'beto/ and not /'biːtoʊ/) seems to enjoy the same popularity than Cruz among registered voters in spite of his very liberal message, when it translates to votes...

Anyway, ¡Viva Beto!

True. But, I think, or maybe I hope, that Trump will motivate the dems to actually get out and vote. While Cruz may not be a as motivating. History is not on their side, but I hope they can pull it off.
 
True. But, I think, or maybe I hope, that Trump will motivate the dems to actually get out and vote. While Cruz may not be a as motivating. History is not on their side, but I hope they can pull it off.

Cruz tiene cara de chupar limones (he has a facial expression that resembles someone constantly sucking the sourest lemons). Es un desangelado (he is totally -said with a S. Californian accent- lacking any charm, called ángel in Spanish)
 
Cruz tiene cara de chupar limones (he has a facial expression that resembles someone constantly sucking the sourest lemons). Es un desangelado (he is totally -said with a S. Californian accent- lacking any charm, called ángel in Spanish)

My new favorite Spanish word.

I expect to be killed while using it improperly. Please don't feel any personal responsibility for my death.
 
It would be a good political smear calling him "el desangelado". Mainly when the white evangelical realizes "he's lacking ángel", so he must be a bit diabolical.

It sounds like a polite way of saying diabolical, and the word diabolical has a nice feel to it.
 
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Taking each of those in turn:

The recent GOP tax cut for very rich people has created an additional multi-trillion dollar deficit and the costs will fall on the less well off. The Democratic Party's tax policy has not been stated but if the GOP tax cuts were reversed, the middle and working classes would be better off in the future and the only people markedly worse off would be the 1%-ers who have seen their tax bills drop through the floor - that's not necessarily a bad message ;)

Is there evidence that the Democratic Party is putting illegal immigrants ahead of US citizens or is this just yet another repetition of the repeatedly-debunked right-wing trope ? Not treating illegal immigrants arbitrarily and inhumanely != putting them ahead of US citizens.

Impeaching President Trump - if there is evidence to support the impeachment - isn't a bad thing. OTOH refusing to even consider impeachment, regardless of any evidence may play badly in the court of public opinion. The only people for whom impeachment of President Trump would always be beyond the pale would never consider voting Democrat anyway.

"The Democrats will take your guns" is another, often repeated, right wing message but the truth is that while the Democratic Party policy may be for less lax gun laws, there's no evidence to support the idea that they are going to legislate to reduce gun ownership to any significant extent.

President Obama presided over unprecedented levels of deportations - he was even criticised for it. The idea that this represents "open borders" is a complete fiction.

So it's the same old, same old, right wing message completely divorced from fact. Quelle surprise :rolleyes:
 
[qimg]https://constitution.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Dem-Pledge-600-LA.jpg[/qimg]

Translated to reality:

We pledge to:

* Save the economy from GOP incompetence
* Treat people humanely regardless of skin color or cree
* Impeach Trump (provided there's a reason to)
* Institute common sense gun laws
* Enforce border security with means that actually work (as opposed to a wall :D )
 

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