2018 mid-term election

Strawberry said:
That's not even a dog whistle is it? Looks like the GOP are just being openly racist now.
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Its the Deep South. It's a heritage that is tough for them to give up. This is going to be a very very ugly race. I thought a moderate white Democrat could easily win the general election because it's the Trumpian of candidates. Instead, it's a very progressive black candidate who is very articulate. It will be a test of how far Florida has come. As much as I want Gillum to win I am afraid that in Florida, he loses. Far too many people are racially bigoted even if they don't know it.
 
dudalb said:
Where is here?
Yeah, voting in the US is more complicated then in Europe;that is because the US is a much bigger country then in Europe.
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I don't think its so much about the size of country (or population) but on what goes into an election.

In Canada we vote for a member of parliament. That's all. In the U.S., in a general election you vote for a president, a congress-critter, a senator, perhaps there may be a referendum or 2 on the ballet, as well as other minor offices.
 
Segnosaur said:
I don't think its so much about the size of country (or population) but on what goes into an election.

In Canada we vote for a member of parliament. That's all. In the U.S., in a general election you vote for a president, a congress-critter, a senator, perhaps there may be a referendum or 2 on the ballet, as well as other minor offices.
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Plus ,for the sake of effiencey state and local elections are usually scheduled on the same day as the national elections.
I also think having regulary scheduled elections has something to do with it.
 
dudalb said:
Where is here?
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Canada.

In a few days I'll be getting a government paper telling me where to vote in the provincials, and on that day I'll just walk there, give my name and govt. ID (which we all have, of course), and 2 minutes later my vote will be cast (on paper, which you can't hack).

dudalb said:
Manadatory voting is a horrible idea. If someone does not want to vote, they certainly will not take the time to study the issues and the candidates,and I think it better that people totally ignorant of what they are voting about not vote at all.
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Yeah, I'm not sure I like the idea at all, unless public schooling and civics are also mandatory, at the very least.
 
“Let’s build off the success we’ve had on Gov. Scott. The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases bankrupting the state. That is not going to work,” DeSantis said.

Nothing wrong with that at all, imo.
 
LTC8K6 said:
“Let’s build off the success we’ve had on Gov. Scott. The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases bankrupting the state. That is not going to work,” DeSantis said.

Nothing wrong with that at all, imo.
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Oh c'mon. Get serious. Stop being so disingenuous. If you don't think the use of the word 'monkey' wasn't a clarion call to the bigots out there, than you need to get out more. He could easily have chosen 'screw up' or 'muck up' or 'foul up'.

But nooooo, he chose 'monkey'.
 
acbytesla said:
The nutjobs who don't care that Trump is a sexist racist misogynist who has the moral compass of cretin support him simply because they see minorities and women as threats to their cherished superior position.
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I keep hearing that, but I guess my experiences as a white Canadian don't quite match up, so I'd ask: what "superior position" is that? I get the idea of bias and systemic advantages, but it's not something you usually notice. My life success is wholly based on the efforts of my father, not my skin colour, but then, there was essentially zero black people where I grew up, so that's a terrible example.

Anyway, wondering how that "fear losing their privilege" works in the wild, as giving rights to others doesn't negate yours, so I've always been slightly confused by this one.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I don't think his base believes that "monkeying around" or "monkey wrench" refers to blacks, though.
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He didn't say monkeying around or monkey wrench though. He said 'don't monkey this up' which isn't even a phrase, and he said it in the context of warning them not to vote for a black candidate.

His base know what he's saying even if you don't.
 
Belz... said:
Canada.

In a few days I'll be getting a government paper telling me where to vote in the provincials, and on that day I'll just walk there, give my name and govt. ID (which we all have, of course), and 2 minutes later my vote will be cast (on paper, which you can't hack).
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I don't think you need actual official government ID. I seem to remember you can either use:
- Actual government ID (driver's license, passport, etc.)
- A utility bill, bank statement, library card, student card, or similar that has your name/address on it
- have someone with you who will swear to your identity

http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e
 
acbytesla said:
Oh c'mon. Get serious. Stop being so disingenuous. If you don't think the use of the word 'monkey' wasn't a clarion call to the bigots out there, than you need to get out more. He could easily have chosen 'screw up' or 'muck up' or 'foul up'.

But nooooo, he chose 'monkey'.
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"Monkey around" a pretty common term.

If it's associated with black people, I am unaware of that association.

I don't see anything in it, though.

Hopefully it blows over and I don't have to quit listening to that song.
 
LTC8K6 said:
"Monkey around" a pretty common term.

If it's associated with black people, I am unaware of that association.

I don't see anything in it, though.

Hopefully it blows over and I don't have to quit listening to that song.
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Again, he didn't say monkey around. He said don't monkey this up, and that is not a common term at all.
 
LTC8K6 said:
"Monkey around" a pretty common term.

If it's associated with black people, I am unaware of that association.

I don't see anything in it, though.

Hopefully it blows over and I don't have to quit listening to that song.
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It easy to not to see something if you have partisan blinders on.

The level of denial by some at what the GOP has become is incredible. It ain't the Party of Reagan and McCain anymore. It the party of Trump, and is rapisly beomcing nothing but a personality cult for him.
And anyway, using the term "monkey" in reference to an Afro American is really ,really stupid.
 
acbytesla said:
Oh c'mon. Get serious. Stop being so disingenuous. If you don't think the use of the word 'monkey' wasn't a clarion call to the bigots out there, than you need to get out more. He could easily have chosen 'screw up' or 'muck up' or 'foul up'.

But nooooo, he chose 'monkey'.
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Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle! This thread is more fun than a barrel of monkeys. Once I finish watching the movie "Monkey Business," I need to pick up my monkey wrench and head back to work.
 
Belz... said:
Canada.

In a few days I'll be getting a government paper telling me where to vote in the provincials, and on that day I'll just walk there, give my name and govt. ID (which we all have, of course), and 2 minutes later my vote will be cast (on paper, which you can't hack).



Yeah, I'm not sure I like the idea at all, unless public schooling and civics are also mandatory, at the very least.
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And not even then. Civics are notoirous in the US as a boring class which students regard as a "pass and forget" course.
Often with considerable justidication, The civics class I took in High School was incredibly boring,and I have always been interested in politics.
 
Strawberry said:
He didn't say monkeying around or monkey wrench though. He said 'don't monkey this up' which isn't even a phrase, and he said it in the context of warning them not to vote for a black candidate.

His base know what he's saying even if you don't.
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Reminds me of 2012's "don't re-nig".
 
Slings and Arrows said:
Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle! This thread is more fun than a barrel of monkeys. Once I finish watching the movie "Monkey Business," I need to pick up my monkey wrench and head back to work.
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If a Trump Minime had called GIllum a N Word, you would still defend it.
 
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