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Ok so Craig gets on the Stern show and of course it is all about ME ME ME and not the fact that the CIT is sitting on smoking gun evidence of the mass murder of human beings on 9-11. http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/286469/1/#new This is such an entertaining thread that I will...

After asking at least a few hundred Truthers to source where the Pentagon had 80 cameras, I found one who referred to Jacqueline Maguire, part of the FBI's Counter Terrorism Division. I investigoogled and found a 9/11 Research page which only speaks of her in passing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print Well we've all known for a while that TV news has been increasingly out of touch with reality, but apparently there's a reason for that. The Pentagon has been deliberately manipulating things, and it...

I almost added this to "Challenge to CIT" thread, but this is addressing another facet of their claims. When I first started watching some of CIT's interview with Steve Chaconas, I immediately thought this guy witnessed the C130. He's not sure of the color or type of plane, and the FP he...

Some Truther on YouTube (The reliable information clearinghouse) sent me a message on "Fire Facts" [emphasis added] Can someone more knowledgeable in fire facts help me sort this gobbledigook out?

So, you want to defend your theory, do you? OK In response to the above I issue the following challenge to "CIT" or their representative. A map of the flight path depicting ANY aircraft that reasonably meets YOUR witnesses descriptions flying a path from overhead Edward Paik's business to a...

Last week I asked a question in this forum regarding what caused the hole in the C-Ring of the Pentagon. I was attempting to see if the debunkers could arrive at some kind of a consensus. This did not occur. Basically, the consensus was that as long as you believe the official story you can...

As you all know, the side of the Pentagon we in the New World Order want you to believe was hit by an airliner was recently "upgraded" to be more blast resistant. Well, as our objectives have now been fulfilled, (you see we were trying to destroy Bear Stearns,) I can now reveal the actual...

Author's Warning: There have already been two threads on this topic. The first was binned due to abusive posts, and the second is under administrative review. I would very much wish to avoid this, and the odium that comes with it. In this spirit, the post below deals strictly with...

This is a question I posed to Totovader at his website and I did not get an answer. Totovader usually responds to questions with same general answers..."contradiction"..."Ockham's Razor"..."non-sequitur." I thought I might pose the question here so I could receive a greater variety of responses...

At least according to Aldo of CIT. < http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/97376/1/#new > Actually he tries to go both ways by saying it might be a bit of both. Also notice in true Aldo form how he resorts to name calling.

The 9/11 Commission Report includes the following chapter #1 footnote (part of #213): "White House transcript, Rice interview with Evan Thomas, Nov. 1, 2001, p. 388 (Rice viewed television footage of Pentagon ablaze in Situation Room)" I'd like to find this, but can't see this transcript on...

The burden of proof is a two-way street. Whatever standard you are holding your opponent to, you should hold to yourself as well. Terral demands that we provide him with a picture of a "100-Ton Jetliner" despite the fact that a plane hitting a concrete wall is not going to remain intact. He...

Not recent but this is an amusing take down of Jim “Uncle” Fetzer in the conservative American Thinker magazine from 2006 by J.R. Dunn. It begins with a short article by Dunn which takes on Fetzer’s claim that the Pentagon was hit by a "missile from an A-3 Skywarrior” (the little white dog) on...

Undicisttembre posted this composite Pentagon by "an Italian 9/11 researcher, Pier Paolo Murru". Apparently, it was "obtained by blending 17 high-resolution photographs [...] compensating for perspective distortion where needed." I did a quick search & didn't see it mentioned, so thought I'd...

I hope these questions are different enough from what's already been posted here to get some good answers. I am new to the JREF forum so my search skills by still need to improve. 1. On the Pilots for Truth forum they have a post (can't post URL's yet) from February of 2007 in which Rob Balsamo...

In another topic I used this to respond to the idea that it was even possible to intercept AA-77 given the 40 minute warning that we were under attack; "Well, let me see, time to get a pilot suited, aircraft armed and fueled and ready for a walk-around is about 20 minutes in these post-cold-war...

Considering questions that truthers bring up concerning AA77's flight path into the Pentagon, specifically 1) If the plane was initially on course for the Pentagon, why make the 330˚ turn? and 2) why crash into the side when diving in the middle from above would have been easier and probably do...

Here is a photo that's been little seen yet: The aircraft ID number is N644AA. I haven't got anyone to tell me if this was from the plane, what part is it from, and what does it tell? People mention no tail numbers and reports matching such to the debris, leaving questions over whether it was...

Here's a terrific find by an Italian blogger who has done excellent work in the past. Outside of a video of the Pentagon strike, this would appear to be the Holy Grail to Pentagon debunkers. Note: the sourcing of this photo is unclear. It certainly looks very much like the area between the...

Came across a post on LC. It states that the arrangement of where the poles lay after the incident is erroneous, as they should all have been deflected out to the right (90 degrees to the angle of the leading edge of the wing. The above photo is used to illustrate the direction the poles are...

I am soliciting opinions regarding some information that is new to me. I have asked for the conspiratorial POV elsewhere. The official reports for the time of the Pentagon collapse state that it collapsed at 09:57. Today I realized that in fact, it actually collapsed at 10:15. The summary...

You know, we hear so much about the collapses of the WTC towers and Buildings 7, but not one Truther says anything about the collapse of the Pentagon. Why is that? The upper floors of the Pentagon collapsed from the fire weakening the steel supports, just as the Towers and 7 did, yet they don't...

The Pentagon held tours for the public again this past Saturday. Unlike last year, they allowed me to bring my camera and take photos. Except for this one day each year, the indoor memorial is not open to the public. And, photography is normally not permitted anywhere on Pentagon property...

Hi everyone, I'm new to the JREF forums, although I've been lurking and observing this topic for quite some time. I have a question about the 'no plane at the Pentagon' theory that so many CTers seem to believe in. Why is this theory so important to them? Most of the truth movement (except...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0e_1184523167 We don't have a Liveleak tag that I know of, or I would embed it in the thread. That's a link to a video of a Chinese train moving at 500 mph. The first few seconds are inside the train itself, but then it cuts to shots of the train moving past...

This thread is for Lyte, and anyone else, who would like to make comment on why or why not a given Pentagon attack witness is or isn't credible, and please provide proof or evidence, not just "I don't buy his testimony" or "he worked for such and such, or was a such and such" opinion does not...

Pilots for truth has released a new video presentation by Calum Douglas where he presents the analysis they did on the flight data recorder data. It seems they did get someone with the proper software to extract the data for them. He presents discrepancies between the NTSB simulation and the...

So one theme I hear constantly from the CT crowd is something along these lines. I believe we have enough physical evidence along with eyewitness testimony to believe the story we're told, but I guess there are those out there that need to see more video evidence. I did a quick search here to...

I built this little "Screw PentaCon" collection myself. Basically, 911Research has a whole bunch of quotes from Pentagon eyewitnesses. I went through and picked out all the ones that I think directly contradict the PentaCon's story, and added an explanation as to why. Use it the next time...