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I've noticed that when theists criticize atheism, they get hung up on the idea that in the absence of gods, life lacks an externally imposed "meaning," usually interpreted as the "eternal destiny" (ED) chosen for you by a god.
Maybe someone can clarify this for me, because if christians...
Going to hell in a hand basket
In the world of natural science existence is that which is measurable. If it cannot be measured it does not exist--except as that which must be exorcised--in any important way in the world of natural science. In the world of capitalism existence is that which...
An article at MSMBC news:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14274585/from/RS.1/
asks if you believe in hell, offers a poll on religion (though some of the questions are worded funkily, especially for those who have no religious beliefs at all) from which you can learn how a sampling of Americans...
I'm kinda-sorta T.A.-ing in a little prep class for pre-algebra. We're going over a lot of basic math stuff, like the operations and integers and decimals. I went and made up a multiplication table for the students to practice on because I remember that having to do a whole bunch of those it...
We are told by believers that we must deny ourselves the pleasures of the flesh in this life in order to earn our reward in the next. So, the way I see it Hell would be the boring place with all the monochrome scenery and harps and boring stuff while heaven would be all booze 'n' drugs 'n'...
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I've not come across this guy
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3557441432446312669
He went to hell for 23 minutes. It's true! :D
ps. You can skip the first 20 minutes of glurge and fallacious reasoning if you want to get to the really funny...
By which I refer to eternal Hell, as typically portrayed in modernity as a place of hideous torture for the damned.
Arguments against the existence of Hell,
(1) The Bible promises salvation and eternal life to those who jump through whatever hoops there may be in worshipping Christ. If Hell...
And have a GREAT time doing it!
I've dropped this subject in a couple of other threads (in Politics, no less) and I thought this might be an even better forum to mention it.
I'm talking about a fairly new publication of Dante's Inferno adapted and translated by Sandow Birk and Marcus Sanders...
To hell with TAM.
Why no, I am not bitter I could not go this year. Not at all.
TAM is awful. Nobody should ever go there again. (Unless I get to go again.)
The speakers are awful. (Well, they are quite good, but I need them to be awful this year.)
The forum members are a bunch of...
First the link FYI:
http://www.gentlewindproject.org/
OK duh, it's some goofy New Age stuff (or "woo" as it's called here), it makes no sense, it's stupid, blah blah......for now at least can we pls skip the very obvious commentaries and jabs as I'm just trying to find out if anyone knows...
...does it really matter to concern ourselves as to whether or not god exists?
IF God is some thinking type force that we can't explain...AND...the Bible is all made up (let's say)...does it matter then that we concern ourselves as to God's existance anymore than it would that we harmoniously...
Is it possible that when the bible refers to hell, it doesn't literally mean a lake of fire where sinners and unbelievers burn ? Is eternal burning really a pagan philosophy ?
Could it be misinterpreted because of language translations and changed definitions of words ?
Is it possible that...
The New Jerusalem heavenly city described in the New Testament is described as going to be 1,500 miles on a side. This can be either a giant cube or pyramid. Either way my following argument still stands:
Take a globe, create a scale model of the heavenly city and hold it onto the globe. See...
Saw an old South Park two-parter the last couple of nights that raised an interesting question for me. I intend to ask the fundies next time they come knocking, but let me throw it out here first.
Here's the setup: The kids - Kyle, Stan, Kenny, and Cartman - find out from the local gung-ho...
Christians tend to argue that god's existence and activities give life meaning and purpose (M&P). I wonder if they extend this idea to their belief in hell. Would life lack M&P if eternal punishment didn't exist?
I was going to put this into the 'contradictions' thread, but feel in a way it fits better on its own.
I had a discussion with a Xian colleague the other day who explained that God is pure love.
I was tempted to simply nod and say, 'He sure is!', but since this guy (a damn good physics...
I've caught several posts here about Jesus kicking the doors down in Hell and setting up shop himself.
A quick google didn't help much but I saw a few mentions of Jesus popping in and out of hell, visiting the dead and inviting them to heaven (Psalms, Peter? No chapter and verse)
Granted, I...
I was there yesterday! It is freezing cold, there is suffering everywhere , there is great lack of reason, and it lasts an eternity.
It was.............an ER waiting room!
My fiance had to go to the hospital last night.....the horror....the horror.
o.k. You can move this to humor...
"Abandon Hope, all ye who enter here!" - or if you prefer it as written by Dante Alighieri, "Lasciate ogni speranza voi ch'entrate!"
Admittedly, Jean-Paul Sartre wrote the "Hell is other people", but that's not what or where I'm going to write about - I'm sure we've all read about "HELL!"
Now...
Someone posted the following link in another thread :
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html
This citation gives details on how scientists can prove the existence of hell and have discovered it's location. It also gives evidence of eternal torment after death for certain people.
Light a candle and...
Like the bible itself, Jack T. Chick's depiction of Hell is loaded with conflicting accounts. The only problem is that this time, they all come from a single person- CHICK!
Let's take a look at the following tracts:
According to "Party Girl," Hell is a bureaucracy...
I'm not trying to make a point with this question, I'm simply asking because I really don't know. Does the Bible say that you'll burn in Hell forever, once damned?
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