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  1. AMTMAN

    Air defenses

    I was reading JamesB paper "There Are No Missile Defenses At the Pentagon" < http://www.jod911.com/There_Are_No_Missile_Defenses_at_the_Pentagon.pdf > the other day when I came across the part about John Judge stating that as a boy climbing onto a silver box his father said was a SAM battery...
  2. L

    New PFT 3D animation depicts actual FDR values

    Yes we know that the NTSB put out an animation that did not accurately depict the FDR. Whether this was due to incompetence or done on purpose as disinformation we will never know. But the FDR does not accurately depict a flight path that can be reconciled with the physical damage (or the...
  3. P

    Flyover Witnesses

    To avoid derailing the ongoing thread built around Lyte Trip's ambitious attempt to discredit every witness to the crash of Flight 77 into the Pentagon, I am starting a new thread, one that I predict will be extremely short. I want the names of eyewitnesses to the flyover of the Pentagon. I...
  4. njslim

    New Book - "THE PENTAGON"

    Was in bookstore today - saw new book "THE PENTAGON" by Steve Vogel. Gives history of design and building of the Pentagon in 1941-42, also has extensive chapter of September 11, the damage and rebuilding of the Pentagon. In the chapter on September 11, Vogel goes into great detail describing...
  5. GregoryUrich

    Anyone interested in debunking Pandora's Box Chapter Two?

    This interesting video was produced by Pilots for 911 Truth and is available at http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ Get your gear, this one will be a tough nut to crack.
  6. Undesired Walrus

    IS Do-Over going to drop no-planes at the pentagon?

    Now, I see April Gallop in the 'teaser' that will 'whet'(sic) our appetites for the world changing film later this year. But there is also a modified version of Flight 77 hitting the pentagon. Is Do-Over going to drop the pentagon no plane, or will he modify it slightly? Gravy, did Do-Over and...
  7. P

    911blogger Hits New Low

    In case you thought that the great minds at 911blogger.com couldn't possibly sink any lower, here's their latest revelation. It is, unusual for a fantasist blog, a concrete claim that can be checked. Yes, yes, of course I understand that American Airlines is lying. (From 911blogger.com)...
  8. Undesired Walrus

    *split* Lyte's proof that the Lloyd England's experience is false

    Lyte. I would like you to explain the of Lloyd England's claim. I would like you explain the proof that the plane did not rip off a lampost and fly it through his window. Where is this proof? Now, take a look at this. This deer has been knocked straight through the window. Is a lot bigger than...
  9. P

    The Second Roberts-Fetzer Debate

    From Gary Popkin, producer of 'Hardfire': Google Video has processed the second program and it is available at http://tinyurl.com/32hx6g
  10. B

    CIT On Jeff Rense

    Craig and Aldo on Jeff Rense http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3653819/The_Jeff_Rense_Show_-_02_Apr_2007_-_Craig_Ranke_Aldo_Marquis_-_M My favorite part is the very beginning when mysteriously craig gets disconnected and then Aldo goes on and on about he was the one who began the investigation and...
  11. G

    Need help with this argument

    How might I tighten up the following? 1. If the FDR data for flight 77 released by the NTSB under the FOIA contained obvious evidence that contradicted the NTSB's own story about the fate of flight 77, then the NTSB (the world's foremost FDR analyzers) knew that the FDR data contained obvious...
  12. C

    9/11 on Google Earth

    Here's the AA77 flight path rendering, using PfT's CSV file from aa77fdr.com and MikeW's CSV from 911myths.com. This will probably not be fully operational on anything older than GoogleEarth4. If it is going to work at all. You mustn't unzip the file, just rename it by removing .zip extension...
  13. L

    Physical evidence that a plane did NOT hit the Pentagon

    I've been wanting to make this thread but am doing so now because of a direct request from Mercutio. I appreciate his rational, civil, logical, and fair approach to debate. Others here would do well to follow his lead. In response to The PentaCon....a common thing for skeptics to say is...
  14. Unsecured Coins

    Comedy

    I get e-mail from woo's about 5 times a day. One of them had this pic in it (I also got this in a myspace message. DAMN IT, They're ON TO ME) Apparently, this is planted evidence at the Pentagon. Certainly a light pole couldn't have went through this windshield... the hood isn't scratched! Son...
  15. Panoply_Prefect

    Why "small engine" at Pentagon is nonsense

    Hi. A few CT sites claim that the pictures of engine parts found at the Pentagon shows a small engine- reasoning that since the disc is so small, the engine had to be small. I've spent some time trying to pin down why its nonsense. I'd like your input. This is the picture for reference...
  16. Panoply_Prefect

    AA77 witnesses

    Hi! Does anyone know of a good site with listings of all known witnesses who saw AA77, prefereably with a record of their statements? Cheers, S
  17. R

    FDR Animation Heading Altered to show southern approoch

    will the real AA77 please stand up http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=5666
  18. R

    CSV FDR File was altered to make aircraft appear on southern approach

    Recent email exchange with a mathmatics and statics expert in reverse engineering data... http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=5083
  19. R

    Jim Ritter & The Ntsb Animation

    The NTSB says the impact is at 09:37:45 as signed by Jim Ritter (Chief of Vehicle Performance) in the Flight Path Study. 1. Does the NTSB animation show the aircraft too high to hit the light poles at 09:37:44.. yes or no. 2. Does the csv file provided by the NTSB show the aircraft too high to...
  20. Panoply_Prefect

    Anyone heard of Daniel Davis U.S. Army?

    Has anyone heard about Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army? He's apparently a ret. Norad Officer who today (?) made the following statement on "Patriots Question 9/11": To me the following thoughs come to mind: When was he working? (Eg, was there a difference during, say, the Cold War, on...
  21. Arus808

    Anyone has Link or copy of the Pentagon Flash Presentation

    Not too long ago, a flash presentation was released showing images of the victims of Flight 77 and where the DNA was found at the crash site. I searched this forum but the DNA is too short of a term to find the thread I remember it being posted here.
  22. Gravy

    A message from JDX/Rob Balsamo of Pilots for truth

    I'll print my reply first: I was told the thread was deleted. It may as well have been, because I "do not have permission to view that topic" You had accepted my challenge of a debate. The challenge was: my evidence that flight 77 hit the Pentagon against yours that it didn't. That IS what's...
  23. C

    Pentagon Eyewitnesses

    There seems to be quite the debate about the FDR and .csv data and the anomolies surrounding them. I say hogwash. What about the physical evidence? What about the eyewitnesses? How do the deniers expalin all of them away? Planted? Fake? Here are 184 statements, many from people that SAW...
  24. Y

    Mineta Follow up

    I didn't see this posted before so... Discuss. I remember there was one other argument against his timeline though. I don't recall what was it though. http://www.911blogger.com/node/6653 -------- http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/03/minetas-testimony-confirmed.html When faced with...
  25. PhantomWolf

    Flight 77 hit the ground first?

    I was watching Seconds from Disaster: Flight 77 two nights back and one of the things that I'd never heard before, and there were a number of them, was that they recovered the tip of the port wing from out of the ground near the building indicating that the tip of the wing and the port engine...
  26. gumboot

    You Can't Fly A 757 Like That!

    I know we've well and truely debunked this claim, but it's always fun to add some more nails to the coffin... For all those who make claims about the impossibility of maneouvering AA77 the way Hanjour did... these should do the trick: 50BRFzVxDH8 ygh5dGuCWkc -Gumboot
  27. GlennB

    Russ stuffs "Quadruple verified" Lyte

    Credit where credit is due : So funny :) Roughly at : http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4974&st=0&#entry12480557
  28. D

    Pentagon 9/11 attack plane Flight Data Recorder values plugged in Computer Simulator

    Hello Sports Fans, Here is the Computer Flight Simulator re-creation with the Flight Data Recorder values plugged in. If the US Government's account is to be believed as true...the traffic light poles would have had to have been 400+ feet high. This provides the place for critical analysis of...
  29. gumboot

    Fire can't melt Steel?

    We've all heard the claim... But in the local news: Remember this was hay. Just hay. -Gumboot
  30. C

    Math proving impossibility of flyover at Pentagon

    With Lyte's new video about the Pentagon, he's now trying to argue that Flight 77 actually flew over the Pentagon. It might help to look at the physics of this. As someone in the field of science and engineering, I'm very, very confused as to why Lyte and the rest of his Citizen Investigation...

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