Merged No Planer calls for scientific study / Missiles of 9/11

Clayton Moore said:
I'd say back at you but you never comment on the OP.
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What is there to say about it? The OP is a facetious expression of surprise that Yankee451 doesn't wear a tinfoil hat in his YouTube video. <shrug>

If you want a comment on the video, Yankee451 is resolutely anti-war in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's absolutely fine, but he unfortunately concludes from this that those reponsible for the prosecution of those wars must be solely responsible for all the wickedness in the world. Particularly, they must have perpetrated 9/11. Having first settled his conclusion, he is now pursuing the construction of an ever more outlandishly complex fantasy which allows him to continue to believe this actually happened.
 
Clayton Moore said:
ahhahaha That hot office fire?

No matter what at least the smashed up black boxes should have been found.
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A few questions: How many MPa of pressure were exerted on objects in the average impact floor of both towers? Compare to the less than 35 MPa that a black box is designed to withstand.

After you think about that one, how many tons of rubble had to be displaced from the site after the collapse? Considering that some models of black box can be as small as 4500 cm³, what do you think are the chances of missing them, even in the very unlikely scenario that they were not completely destroyed by the collapse?
 
Megalodon said:
A few questions: How many MPa of pressure were exerted on objects in the average impact floor of both towers? Compare to the less than 35 MPa that a black box is designed to withstand.

After you think about that one, how many tons of rubble had to be displaced from the site after the collapse? Considering that some models of black box can be as small as 4500 cm³, what do you think are the chances of missing them, even in the very unlikely scenario that they were not completely destroyed by the collapse?
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If the collapse didn't get them then the lake of molten steel would.
 
Clayton Moore said:
I'd say back at you but you never comment on the OP.
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I'm waiting for you to actually answer a question in this or any other thread that you are involved in. If you want to keep on entertaining us, carry on. As for the OP, planes crashed into buildings and caused the damage. You don't know enough physics to appreciate that.
 
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tsig said:
If there were no planes what made the huge holes in the side of the buildings?
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An even better question is if there were no planes why are there so many eye witnesses, videos of planes hitting the WTC? Why is there so much physical evidence of planes hitting the WTC?

It's time people like CM understand that while there is still legitimate failure analysis to be done on 9/11 they aren't part of it; they impede true analysis. This sort of thing delegitimizes important work by allowing it to be dumped into a fantasy sideshow of no-planes, death rays, and mystery explosives.
 
Clayton Moore said:
I'm from France and I hear a plane and somehow pan right to the towers?
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He (and others) hear a jet plane at clearly high speed (a rather unusual occurence) and about a second later seeing something emerge from behind the building across the street, he does what in the business is called a whip pan towards the vicinity of what he has seen. This to a 'truther' is something incomprehensible but to anyone who has had any television camera experience is not unexpected for any decent cameraman.

A lack of experience on your part does not constitute a conspiracy.

Clayton Moore said:
Why would a foreigner think hearing a plane in a huge metropolitan city is odd?
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Mebbe because hearing a "clearly high speed" plane in a "huge metropolitan city IS odd.

HTH

Fitz
 
Clayton Moore said:
The nonsense science of E=mgh makes FOUR black boxes disappear in the middle of New York City, New York 10048.
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Four black boxes in the tails of two planes that crashed into 100+ storey towers which then collapsed. This is only magic if you're physics-challenged. I'm also quite sure that had any of the recorders survived, 'truthers' would saying that that shouldn't have happened.

Damned if you do....

Fitz
 
Clayton Moore said:
The nonsense science of E=mgh makes FOUR black boxes disappear in the middle of New York City, New York 10048.
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Here's some maths for you.

.....E = MC2
I can add zero without changing the value, and since 0 * L2 = 0,

.....0(L2) + E = MC2
Now substitute the value of TR for E at this point in time and you get

.....0(L2) + TR = MC2
Now rearrange the terms and expand the factors and you get

.....C2M = TR + 0(LL)

I've just proved more on this forum than you ever have, and I used maths to do it.
 
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fitzgibbon said:
Four black boxes in the tails of two planes that crashed into 100+ storey towers which then collapsed. This is only magic if you're physics-challenged. I'm also quite sure that had any of the recorders survived, 'truthers' would saying that that shouldn't have happened.

Damned if you do....

Fitz
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If the black boxes had been found then Clayton would be saying that the data was fixed and part of the nefarious Jewish plot.
 
Craig4 said:
An even better question is if there were no planes why are there so many eye witnesses, videos of planes hitting the WTC? Why is there so much physical evidence of planes hitting the WTC?

It's time people like CM understand that while there is still legitimate failure analysis to be done on 9/11 they aren't part of it; they impede true analysis. This sort of thing delegitimizes important work by allowing it to be dumped into a fantasy sideshow of no-planes, death rays, and mystery explosives.
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The witnesses are all in on it, all of em. The holes were caused by an energy weapon and the planes were manifested via holograms.

I wish I could say I made all that up, But in 2013, There are living people who earnestly think that's what happened.
 
Nay_Sayer said:
The witnesses are all in on it, all of em. The holes were caused by an energy weapon and the planes were manifested via holograms.

I wish I could say I made all that up, But in 2013, There are living people who earnestly think that's what happened.
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They need medical help, poor things.
 
911 truth dictionary - Science = Nonsense

Clayton Moore said:
The nonsense science of E=mgh makes FOUR black boxes disappear in the middle of New York City, New York 10048.
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The best part for this, 911 truth's inability to state what a black box can withstand. There is no research. They make up lies, and say it can't be, but can't do the math, or look up specs. 911 truth lost the debate, they never present facts, only woo.

I understand science is not used by 911 truth. Math is in the same boat.

E=mgh called nonsense. 911 truth's proof science is not used.

Energy released by the falling towers was enough to void the warranty of the black boxes. The same energy was a reason most the people were smashed beyond recognition.

Energy release by each tower, equal in energy to over 130 2,000 pound bombs. Or for 911 truth some science, 576,000,000,000 joules. Cool part, 911 truth can't do the math to check my numbers.

But 911 truth does no science. 911 truth calls science nonsense, so they can lie and spread fantasy based on "nothing". Their true science of woo, nothing.

Ignoring RADAR, 911 truth spreads the fantasy of no-planes. An insane concept based on ignorance.
 
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