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The French guy hears a plane and pans right to the twin towers. :jaw-dropp
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No. Everyone on the street (as clearly seen in the video) hears an extraordinarily low flying plane and looks toward it.
 
Robrob said:
No. Everyone on the street (as clearly seen in the video) hears an extraordinarily low flying plane and looks toward it.
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If you believe 9/11 was an inside job the planes had to hit each tower. No if ands or buts. It's called not putting all your marbles in one basket. The only way to make absolutely sure that a plane hit the tower is to have the media show doctored videos of a plane hitting the tower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys41jnL2Elk

The French guy hears a plane and pans right to the twin towers.
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Watch the video until reality sinks in.
 
abaddon said:
Hollywood myth. Black boxes are indestructible and will survive anything, sure.

Do you base your view of reality on Hollywood myths? It appears so.
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Actually I don't believe in things disappearing. It has nothing to do with them being indestructible.
 
Strange that the MIHOP perps deliberately chose to carry out the attacks in a way that somehow fooled 99% of professionals in the relevant fields (aircraft, architecture, demolitions, etc.) and yet also in a way that would be blinding obvious to people who have little if any expertise in said relevant fields. Those diabolical masterminds!







That, or the lack of expertise lead the latter group to reach an erroneous conclusion.
 
Is CM really suggesting that because the black boxes weren't recovered that there were no airplanes? What an odd thing to suggest.
 
Craig4 said:
Is CM really suggesting that because the black boxes weren't recovered that there were no airplanes? What an odd thing to suggest.
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It's based on the "common sense" perception that the black boxes are indestructible. You'll find that Clayton relies a lot on "common sense" perceptions when the facts are against him.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Watch the video until reality sinks in.
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Maybe you could give me just a hint of this reality that's supposed to sink in? I hear the roar of a jet and the camera pans toward the tower. So if there was no jet then the reality is what?

  • The cameraman was prompted via cell phone (on vibrate) to pan toward the towers prior to the bombs going off?
  • Invisible flying speakers?
  • The whole video is CG?

What is the superior explanation to camera guy hears jet and pans toward it?
 
brazenlilraisin said:
Maybe you could give me just a hint of this reality that's supposed to sink in? I hear the roar of a jet and the camera pans toward the tower. So if there was no jet then the reality is what?

  • The cameraman was prompted via cell phone (on vibrate) to pan toward the towers prior to the bombs going off?
  • Invisible flying speakers?
  • The whole video is CG?

What is the superior explanation to camera guy hears jet and pans toward it?
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Is that the name of a band? ;)
 
Clayton Moore said:
No black boxes = no planes.
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No Understanding of Physics = Crazy claims and silly lies like No Planes

E=mgh was released. I looked it up, the Black Boxes were not designed for the magnitude of E found in the WTC. Should use science instead of making up silly lies based on nonsense. Better luck with Bigfoot. You will find you can recycle all your evidence. Saves on making up more woo.

No planes? The planes were seen, DNA was found from people on the planes, and RADAR tracked 11 and 175 to the WTC impacts. You lost the no plane contest before you dreamed up the fantasy.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Watch the video until reality sinks in.
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French guy's shooting out onto street w/firefighter in frame. Fast, low-flying jet heard and reacted-to by firefighter.

Now here's the part Clayton wouldn't be familiar with. Cameraman's right eye is on viewfinder, left eye is open and free to notice what's going on outside the camera frame. Cameraman sees the movement of something approaching the WTC and he reacts, doing about a 120° left rotation just in time to catch impact in a wide shot, zooming in as the fireball billows.

To the Clayton Moores of the world, this couldn't possibly happen except that the cameraman was also 'in on it'. The Clayton Moores of the world see conspiracy regardless of whether common sense trumps

Fitz
 
fitzgibbon said:
French guy's shooting out onto street w/firefighter in frame. Fast, low-flying jet heard and reacted-to by firefighter.

Now here's the part Clayton wouldn't be familiar with. Cameraman's right eye is on viewfinder, left eye is open and free to notice what's going on outside the camera frame. Cameraman sees the movement of something approaching the WTC and he reacts, doing about a 120° left rotation just in time to catch impact in a wide shot, zooming in as the fireball billows.

To the Clayton Moores of the world, this couldn't possibly happen except that the cameraman was also 'in on it'. The Clayton Moores of the world see conspiracy regardless of whether common sense trumps

Fitz
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And who knows how many other cameras and cameramen were working around the city that morning that didn't get that shot or missed it. I believe that there was at least one other video that caught the 1st impact.....(someone with a video camera crossing one of the bridges I think)
 
fitzgibbon said:
French guy's shooting out onto street w/firefighter in frame. Fast, low-flying jet heard and reacted-to by firefighter.

Now here's the part Clayton wouldn't be familiar with. Cameraman's right eye is on viewfinder, left eye is open and free to notice what's going on outside the camera frame. Cameraman sees the movement of something approaching the WTC and he reacts, doing about a 120° left rotation just in time to catch impact in a wide shot, zooming in as the fireball billows.
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Have to nitpick and disagree with your interpretation. The cameraman heard the plane and pointed the camera to beyond the building that was blocking the view. You can actually see a blurred image of the high-speed jet before it hits the WTC.

And truthers are silly, in that we can agree...
 
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