UFOs: The Research, the Evidence

[Akhenaten]

No, you are being completely dishonest.
You first claim that when you say "alien" you mean "unknown" and then go on to state that as these "craft" (what craft I've no idea as non have ever been proven to be crafts) have capablities beyond our knowledge, and that as physics doesn't rule out interstellar travel that they come from somewhere else in the universe... So extraterrestrial then?

Everything above, except for the "dishonest part" is almost true. Allow me to rephrase:

Rephrase, you say?​

The word "unknown" is synoymous with "alien" as in alien to our knowledge and civilization but does not necessitate ET.

Only in Ufologese.

Also, it has been determined by USAF investigation and study that some of these alien objects are craft, and are sometimes called craft, e.g. "Under certain power conditions, the craft seems to have the ability to cut a clear path through clouds -- " ( From a formerly SECRET 1947 Intelligence document )

Is there some reason, folo, other than that it's not there, that I can't make out the word 'alien' in the above 'determination'?

. . . not that it takes a rocket scientist to understand that objects shaped like discs and appearing to be metallic that can outrun Air Force jets are some kind of craft.

Of course not. Anyone with a shred of imagination can manage it.

What would the correct term be for someone who inserts the word 'alien' into the description though. Any ideas about that, folo?

 

[Akhenaten]

If I were going to start posting multiple case studies it would be on my own website and I'd link from here to them. And if you really knew what you were talking about with respect to how the USI site works, you wouldn't have made the comments you did. But I suppose such comments are to be expected from someone who hasn't actually done the work and finds satisfaction in minimizing other people's efforts.

One 'case study' that appears on your website is that of your own UFO sighting ( campfire story ) but it seems incomplete as there's no explanation of how you were able to eliminate witches as the subject of the sighting.

When do you anticipate having the time to correct this oversight?

 

[Akhenaten]

Anita? Anita Ikonen? Is that you?

It's uncanny, isn't it?

 

[Jocce]

ehcks,

the DC case was so well publicized that claiming it didn't happen isn't reasonable

And yet you can't provide any links or other references to the evidence you have examined to reach the conclusion that it was an alien craft. Or maybe you just ignored those requests too becuase you dont have any?

 

[Krikkiter]

And yet you can't provide any links or other references to the evidence you have examined to reach the conclusion that it was an alien craft. Or maybe you just ignored those requests too becuase you dont have any?

Flawed research ... no evidence. I think he only still posts in this thread because he's afflicted with the delusion that he's the star of the show... well, if it was a tragic comedy he would be I suppose.

 

[Toke]

.... Each base was assigned a UFO officer. This was a secondary duty and if the officer was not very motivated, you did not get a very good investigation.

What a job.
I wonder if it was just one of those that got shifted downwards until it stuck with most junior officer, or an active punishment like naval representative to Ulan-Bator.

 

[Krikkiter]

What say you of this ufology?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228962

 

[Astrophotographer]

What a job.
I wonder if it was just one of those that got shifted downwards until it stuck with most junior officer, or an active punishment like naval representative to Ulan-Bator.

It is hard to say. I am sure that some commands looked on it as a waste of time. They had to supply an officer and was probably the "new guy", who just graduated from officer school (what my father referred to as "knife and fork school" when he attended). However, in other cases, the officer may have been very qualified. I know that Major Chase was the UFO officer at Malmstrom during the Condon study (and the infamous echo flight incident). He was an ex-pilot and seemed to have taken the role very seriously.

Like I said, it probably was a secondary job. We used to do it on a submarine. In addition to your primary job, you had a secondary one (and maybe more than one). They usually did not require a significant amount of your time but it did require attention. If this were the case for most UFO officers, they would allot the amount of time they felt necessary to that secondary duty.

 

[Astrophotographer]

Would you say it's appropriate to call the BBSR14 a "meta-analysis" of UFO reports?

From what I have read, it was strictly a paper exercise. There was something like 2000 reports for the study to examine. It would have been impossible for them to conduct thorough examinations of each case in the time allotted. They did examine all the documentation associated with each case but, as they stated, some of the reports were written long after the incident occurred and there was little investigation of those cases. We don't know how many of these snuck into the "good" or "excellent" categories.

 

[Sledge]

Do we have a description of what an alien craft looks like from our esteemed expert yet?

 

[Stray Cat]

Do we have a description of what an alien craft looks like from our esteemed expert yet?

Yes, if it has any imaginable shape or any imaginable performance characteristics, it can be imagined to be an alien space ship...



... or something.

 

[Cuddles]

This thread seems to be getting a little long and slow, so part 2 can be found approximately here.

Posted By: Cuddles