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Good resources debunking the "Roswell crash"?

RKOwens4

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A few years back I created a series of YouTube videos called "9/11 Debunked", which became really popular (3.7 million total views), and I get people messaging me all the time telling me I should make a series of videos debunking this or that (usually it's the moon landing "hoax" or the JFK assassination "conspiracy"). But I'm actually more interested in debunking the conspiracy theory that an alien spacecraft crashed outside Roswell in 1947 and that the government has covered it up. It'll probably be a while (months) before I actually start making the videos, as right now I'm still in the research stage, trying to learn as much about it all as possible. I've come across a few good resources debunking the UFO myth, but almost all of them try to debunk the entire UFO history in general and thus only have a few brief articles on the Roswell case in particular. I plan to focus on Roswell since it's the most popular (and, in a sense, the "original").

Does anyone know of any good resources I should look at (websites, books, documentaries)?
 
Hmm, I'd be interested in this myself.
 
Hi RKOwens4!

Loved your 9/11 debunked series! I was actually watching many of those videos yesterday! :D I always find myself rofling at the truther in the yellow shirt yelling "New World Order" at that random guy, just because of what he wears :D

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a lot besides Wikipedia, I guess that's a start, check the sources. I don't think Roswell is really that "big".
 
Greedo said:
Hi RKOwens4!

Loved your 9/11 debunked series! I was actually watching many of those videos yesterday! :D I always find myself rofling at the truther in the yellow shirt yelling "New World Order" at that random guy, just because of what he wears :D
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Yeah that same guy also kept trying to get my attention when I was talking to Jason Bermas saying something about me getting support from the New World Order or whatever, which is all these people can ever come up with. I have no doubt in my mind that once I start debunking the Roswell myth, I'm going to start getting accused of being a government "Man in Black" who is in on the "coverup".

Thanks for the resources, guys. One video that I discovered yesterday has to do with the two men who originally released the infamous "alien autopsy" film in 1995 admitting that they faked it. If interested you can watch it at the bottom of this page: http://www.trudang.com/autopsy/autocont.html
 
Hey , RKOwens, awesome finally getting to speak to you! I, too, have used your 9/11 Debunked series in many encounters with Truthers ( I can't really call them debates, because in debates there is an exchange of facts. Truthers never seem to get around to the facts).

However, when it comes to Roswell, what is your motivation for Debunking Roswell? I ask because if it's external due to public pressure, you might either run out of steam, or you might get in over your head quickly.

Back to your YT videos, you might want to go update some because quite a few of the links are broken. To me, I need to have all my documentation in order just to show how clear a point I'm making is. Having links that don't lead back to where they should is not an example of work well-done. It's how Truthers do it.

You're better than broken links.
 
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OCaptain said:
However, when it comes to Roswell, what is your motivation for Debunking Roswell? I ask because if it's external due to public pressure, you might either run out of steam, or you might get in over your head quickly.
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I agree completely. That's why I haven't tackled the moon landing or JFK stuff, which is where almost all the external pressure is pushing me towards but I have almost zero interest in these because they are, for lack of a better term, "your father's conspiracy theories" (meaning, different generation). And yes even though the Roswell case is older than both of these, the UFO thing lives on every day but Roswell seems to be the most well known case (if there's a more recent and just as popular case, remind me). As for my motivation, I guess it's because I'm very interested in astronomy and the idea of life on other planets but there are groups of people out there who just completely fake evidence and make crap up, who aren't helping anything.

Back to your YT videos, you might want to go update some because quite a few of the links are broken. To me, I need to have all my documentation in order just to show how clear a point I'm making is. Having links that don't lead back to where they should is not an example of work well-done. It's how Truthers do it.

You're better than broken links.
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The problem with that is that having YouTube videos is completely different than having a website. The only way I can change anything in any of my YouTube videos is to delete the video, make the change in the video editing program, and then re-upload the video. And I've gotten a new computer twice so all of the video editing data on that old computer is completely long lost. In other words, it's impossible for me to make any changes on those old videos unless I started completely from scratch. The only other thing I could do is make a note of the correct link in the description box, but no one's ever even told me of any broken links. Do you remember which were broken?
 
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Thanks for the autopsy link.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive." Sir Walter Scott
 
Yeah, when I relocate those, I'll PM you, so as to keep off-topic stuff off this thread.
 
RKOwens4 said:
Does anyone know of any good resources I should look at (websites, books, documentaries)?
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Unfortunately, I can't find anything related to some of the pre-web research done on CompuServe around 1993, which was rather compelling. And prior to that, I was (temporarily) involved with a MUFON precursor at a NY state university, where corroborating material (for the concept below) was discovered and ultimately destroyed.

In the 70's, somewhat before the popularized explosion of UFO mythology, pranks, and hucksters, there were a few articles in one or more southwest newspapers that seemed to conclusively prove the entire event was one of the first (if not the first) attempts to create disinformation targeted to fool Russia. The east/west relationship was getting rather tense, being just one year after Churchill's "Iron Curtain" speech, and US intelligence agencies were rather -- uh -- inexperienced to put it lightly.

The year of the "event," 1947, was filled with a broad ramping up of government secrecy and clandestine operations that would soon evolve into the cold war, and also was just one year after the Truman Doctrine. In addition, 1947 was the year of the Marshall Plan, which has been widely considered (even in non-conspiracy circles) as the "cover" to inject US clandestine operations throughout Europe. So we know the US government was ramping up counter-intelligence at the time.

The argument that the "Roswell Incident" was an (inept) attempt by fledgling counter-intelligence departments to fool the Russians into believing we captured advanced extraterrestrial technology is a compelling angle, and fits well with the political environment of the time. Especially when you consider that, a few years later, the Soviet Union concocted a similar story, complete with photos of a crashed flying saucer (that was laughably fake).

If you focus your research in that direction... you might find something.
 
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If you can get a strong enough signal through the forcefield, it will shut itself down completely. The shield is currently set to %99.9997

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DeathDart said:
If you can get a strong enough signal through the forcefield, it will shut itself down completely. The shield is currently set to %99.9997

Have you tried hooking 115KV line to a garage door opener?
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