Iran sends Mouse and Turtle into space

Darth Rotor

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Next year, they send Moose and Squirrel. :)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35213146/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

Insider intel sources reveal that this scientific payload is part of a cutting edge bio-engineering experiment, intended to develop the first ever murtle: an armored mouse. The original test plan, which led to the cross bred touse, was too slow to avoid most Persian cats, and thus abandoned.

The presence of worms remains a mystery.

The program has worried Western powers who fear the same technology used to launch satellites and research capsules could also deliver warheads.
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Or a bad case of worms to entire cities.

DR
 
Iran launches small animals in orbit

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/02/03/iran.space.satellites/index.html

Er, OK... But why? Is it for scientific research?

Doesn't Iran know we already send human beings in orbit all the time, that we've been to the Moon and back like a dozen times already, and there has even been a Russian astronaut who spent a year in orbit, so what possible information could these rodents and turtles add to what we already know about space travel?

Meanwhile of course on Earth, Iran is to execute protesters, because you know, having disagreement with the regime is a crime punishable by death over there, but that's another story...
 
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A nuclear weapon, unguided, with re-entry shell masses less than 100 kg for a low yield weapon. If your target is the NY Metro Area or the Washington Metro Area, simple launch vehicle guidance with a summing accelerometer for thrust termination can put such a weapon in a circle of error of only 40 miles. Almost guaranteed to hit something damaging.

This is why we have to keep the pressure on Iran until they have a secular revolution or give the UN inspection authority to ensure they are not building anything like that.
 
It's a perfect disguise for an advanced long range ballistic missile program.

If you can launch a monkey into orbit and bring it down for a soft landing (which is often as much about where as it is about how) you can drop other packages anywhere on Earth.
 
This is obviously a one-way trip, so what information do they think they'll get from these animals, since the rocket is not coming back to Earth? Are they monitoring these animals vitals signs while they are in orbit?

Or maybe they're just trying to rival North Korea as the most bizarre regime on Earth.
 
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
It's a perfect disguise for an advanced long range ballistic missile program.

If you can launch a monkey into orbit and bring it down for a soft landing (which is often as much about where as it is about how) you can drop other packages anywhere on Earth.
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Sadly I think you are spot on with your observation :(
 
Pardalis said:
This is obviously a one-way trip, so what information do they think they'll get from these animals, since the rocket is not coming back to Earth? Are they monitoring these animals vitals signs while they are in orbit?

Or maybe they're just trying to rival North Korea as the most bizarre regime on Earth.
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If they are testing a re-entry shell, this is not obviously a one-way trip. But its not hard to add telemetry to such a thing.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Next year, they send Moose and Squirrel. :)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35213146/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

Insider intel sources reveal that this scientific payload is part of a cutting edge bio-engineering experiment, intended to develop the first ever murtle: an armored mouse. The original test plan, which led to the cross bred touse, was too slow to avoid most Persian cats, and thus abandoned.

The presence of worms remains a mystery.


Or a bad case of worms to entire cities.

DR
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Not to mention the fact that they may beat us in the race to Mars. The horror, the horror.
 
BenBurch said:
Are there old oak trees in Iran?

Because one of the working methods for a heat shield is a thick shell of oak. Seriously. It chars and then ablates and the char is a good insulator.
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The nosecone (fairing) of the C-3 was made of Sitka Spruce.
 
BenBurch said:
A nuclear weapon, unguided, with re-entry shell masses less than 100 kg for a low yield weapon. If your target is the NY Metro Area or the Washington Metro Area, simple launch vehicle guidance with a summing accelerometer for thrust termination can put such a weapon in a circle of error of only 40 miles. Almost guaranteed to hit something damaging.
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That sounds familiar. Isn't that pretty much the approach used in the German V2?
 
What, so just because some nations happened to launch rockets in the 1950s, now you're lame if you launch rockets at any later date?

I, for one, applaud the latest iteration in the Iranian space program. Any nation that wants to master rocketry has to master it for themselves. There is simply no other way. Launching animals into space is an obvious and necessary precursor to launching humans into space. At the same time some bemoan America's looming reliance on foreign rockets for manned space missions, Iran takes one step closer to being free from that reliance themselves--a step worthy of respect, not ridicule.

And of course it's also a step closer to strategic power, to regional and global influence on an ever-greater scale. No small goal, and no small program for getting there. What would you have Iran do, DR? Halt their program here, because launching animals is "so 1950s"? Skip over all the intermediate steps, straight to launching gps satellites and interplanetary probes and manned ISS missions, like all the Cool Kids of the New Millennium are doing? Just give up and beg for rides from other, more advanced programs?

How else would you have Iran reach for the stars, and the world, except step by step, the way everybody else does?
 
Mouse & turtle?

Couldn't find Moose & Squirrel? (Rocky & Bullwinkle)
 
Pardalis said:
Now Iran will also have to deal with PETA.
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A casual observer would think that you're kidding.

PETA has historically remained tight-lipped about mid-east tension and violence until animals start getting hurt:

Following the recent bombing in Jerusalem in which a live donkey, laden with explosives, was blown up, shocking people of all nationalities around the world, PETA has written to Palestinian National Authority President Yasser Arafat asking that he urge those who listen to him to keep animals out of the conflict.
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In other words, PETA couldn't care less how many human beings get killed as long as it's only two legged animals suffering.
 
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