What will happen when EVERYTHING is recorded?

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Is this a prediction based on your hunches? It is certainly not the current case in general.

Based on the really poor record of CCTV.

Your average meth addict doesn't have time or money to travel very far for his next source of income

Meth addicts who are down to stealing enough are generaly below the level where the general population is going to notice them much in any case.

Looking at the OP from my own perspective on protection I welcome the day when I can record my home and property 24/7 and when I can record every wink and nuance of a conversation with an investment advisor.

You already can. Won't help you when someone you don't know and the police don't know breaks in while you are at work or on holiday.
 
When everything is recorded...

We won't be able to find anything.

;)

Actually that is my part of the argument I have lots of times in certain 'circles' I am in.

They usually want to prevent recording of things, I say "let's create more noise!"
 
Based on the really poor record of CCTV.
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Meth addicts who are down to stealing enough are generaly below the level where the general population is going to notice them much in any case.
You have ignored the example of Bernie Madoff. In any case, the two examples were just that. The fact is that most crimes occur within the neighborhood.

You already can.

No I can't. Not for anything within the realm of affordable. I could have a camera here and there but in every room of my home and every outside wall, and the sides of the garage, and my truck when it's parked? Not even close to that point.

Won't help you when someone you don't know and the police don't know breaks in while you are at work or on holiday.

It will help a lot when someone I know commits the crime (reason enough to celebrate) or it will help by discouraging them in the first place. The only time our house was burgled was when the kid who mowed our lawn did it.

But that is ignoring the other important point of how it will help. Facial recognition software will have greater potential as this new age of mass storage and greater number of faces on record will change the landscape of who knows who.
 
When everything is recorded...

We won't be able to find anything.

;)

I would have said the same thing about the internet 10 or 15 years ago, and then came Google.

I can now find MY OWN home movies shot around 1975 by searching Google! 20 years ago I thought those movies were gone forever :jaw-dropp

Think Google is done evolving?
 
My ideal future inclueds cameras on us all and on all vehicles like the Google street-view cameras that are on a short-loop recording and not live-fed anywhere unless and until there's a criminal incident or accident when a witness would trigger the last 5 mins or whatever from all cameras within the locality to be sent to a 'police' or justice department to assess what just happened. Obviously this would depend on the authorities being trustworthy enough for people to be happy with this which is why it's ridiculously idealistic. I also like the idea of letting any adults buy and carry guns on the condition that the triggers on them would also trigger the scenario as depicted by all local cameras to be sent to be inspected.

It is a strange one because I, with a huge number of others in the UK don't like the vast number of cameras virtually everywhere public here; yet I would be a lot happier for them to be there (and many many more) if I knew they were not being perpetually monitored by authorities in which I have little trust.
 
I think that the end of privacy and the incoming digital information age will have profound implications for society. On one level we can see that with the democratisation of information previously unreported or unreportable events can no longer be contained (like most recently in Iran), but the flipside of that same democratisation of information is the tool for repression. We can see this most clearly in China and other repressive regimes, which can monitor Internet traffic, mobile phone calls, GPS positioning, CCTV images, electronic bank transactions and the rest to subject its citizens (as it sees fit) to levels of surveillance unthinkable even a decade ago.

I take a somewhat more pessimistic view therefore about the new information age, it shifts the power significantly towards the state and away from the individual in terms of civil liberties and the control of the local populace. Perversely this may be accompanied by the illusion of being able to hold leaders to greater account as a result of the free flow of information, but this may well exist only on a superficial level. If the Iranian or Burmese leaders use digital monitoring to repress the same democracy movements that came to international attention through digital means, what really has the democratisation of information really achieved? With the tools in place I think we will see political systems shift towards the authoritarian in the coming decades.

Maybe I'm being something of a doom merchant, but one only has to look at the rapid erosion of civil liberties taking place currently in Britain under a supposedly centre-left government all in the name of " the war on terror". Such a conflict as open-ended as it is amorphous will likely see ever greater monitoring of populations for the sake of security. And it's not inconceivable that a truly devastating terrorist attack could end any notions of civil liberties that we currently hold.

I'm off to live in Bhutan ;)
 
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I think that the end of privacy and the incoming digital information age will have profound implications for society.
This in my opinion is almost certain, and the speed, scope and implications of that change are I think severely underestimated by the vast majority of people.
... information [as] the tool for repression ... most clearly [seen] in China and other repressive regimes...monitor Internet traffic, mobile phone calls, GPS positioning, CCTV images, electronic bank transactions and the rest to subject its citizens (as it sees fit)...shifts the power significantly towards the state and away from the individual in terms of civil liberties and the control of the local populace [and] shift[s us] towards the authoritarian in the coming decades...One only has to look at the rapid erosion of civil liberties taking place currently in Britain under a supposedly centre-left government all in the name of " the war on terror".
I hear you buddy, and I can also see it as a real danger but somehow, I don't know how, I think deep down, a rejection of tyranny is in our nature.

Whilst in the US the election of Obama appeared to raise confidence in the power, and thereby the confidence in democracy , here in the UK with the expenses scandal politicians and the democratic system as is are less popular than in a very long time.

Maybe in somewhere like Iran, where such an uprising succeeds, 'the people' will look at the increasing alternatives to democracy and come up with something that truly empowers and protects the individual in society against abuse from each other and from the state.

Then, when people can see what is possible, there can be enough confidence for the disgruntled masses in the UK and elsewhere to use the current democratic system to instigate radical change.

Looking at all this is scary but also quite fun to speculate :)
 
I would have said the same thing about the internet 10 or 15 years ago, and then came Google.

I can now find MY OWN home movies shot around 1975 by searching Google! 20 years ago I thought those movies were gone forever :jaw-dropp

Think Google is done evolving?

How big a slice of the Internet do you think Google has indexed?
 
As one opposed to a totalitarian state, I find some comfort in the notion of the ratio of recorded data vs. the time required to observe it. Big brother simply doesn't have enough time to read all our diaries; to find out what we were doing in that bathroom stall.

It could get spookier if the relentless video cameras were tweaked to notice "suspicious behavior" as it was occurring...and to sound alarms on the spot.

When 7-11's started to put up notices to the effect of "Report suspicious behavior", my gut reaction was that the sign itself constituted suspicious behavior, and needed to be reported. I discovered I had a minority opinion on this.

The most overt way that 1984 style big-brother has appeared in my life, has been the war on drugs. It doesn't effect me, but I find it almost hilarious that I know people working minimum wage jobs that have to endure random drug tests. Its mostly pot smokers that deal with this heavy hand...either quitting the use of the offensive herb to keep their crappy job...or going through bizarre histrionics to provide clean urine.

The sad part of this, to me, is that these cracker factory workers actually feel like they've pulled one over on "The Man" when they employ one of the many test cheating devices, offered on the internet...and they get away with having a few tokes on saturday night, without getting fired from their horrible, monotonous job!


Yee-haw!

Me?

I'm against having my pee inspected, unless the job pays mega-bucks.
(Which, oddly enough, is when the heavy-handed intrusion stops.)

As an aging boomer fart, I grew up on Candid Camera...and it was fun...though potentially embarrassing. The consolation prize for the concept of being possibly spied on, was the money you got for letting the Candid Camera people exploit you in this way.
I recall it being somewhat controversial; this idea of maybe being filmed without your prior knowledge. It was invasive. Yet, it was a funny TV show. We let it ride. We laughed at the foolish dupes, and even admired the money they got as compensation for having their privacy violated.

I'm still laughing.

It keeps the tears at bay.

Another small victory for freedom.
 
You should read "The Light of Other Days" by A.C Clark and another guy.

It is an SF novel adressing that kind of issue.

The basic premise is that media are using small wormhole to "remote view" parts of the world. They find out that by adjusting some variable, not only can they spy remote part of the Earth but they can also adjust the time variable and spy on every past event on Earth. Ultimately the service becomes as ubiquitous as Internet.

It is interesting and sometimes optimistic.


There is some major upheaval, particularly related to the history of religion, privacy does not exist anymore since anyone can track what you did during your whole life but there is some good side effects : corruption disappears, it is virtually impossible to commit a crime, etc..

Worth a read IMHO.
 
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If I was was younger and more energetic, I would dedicate my life to committing a crime that couldn't be uncovered.I would be the new Bernie Maddoff.

The idea that technology will allow a crime-free future, is enough to ensure a future for crime.
 
This was actually the subject of an Our Lady Peace concept album which featured none other than R.K. himself doing short spoken-word pieces inbetween the songs. At the end of it, a hidden track has him having a conversation with some sort of advanced AI from the future.

Interesting stuff.
 
This was actually the subject of an Our Lady Peace concept album which featured none other than R.K. himself doing short spoken-word pieces inbetween the songs. At the end of it, a hidden track has him having a conversation with some sort of advanced AI from the future.

Interesting stuff.

Who is R.K.?
 
I assume that in a world where everything is recorded it will be somewhat of a curse to be interesting, attractive or important. Boring people would still be recorded but noone would bother with the information. Celebrities, of all stripes, are online 24/7 regardless of their own desires.

"Boring" information will be deleted in huge chunks as servers run out of space. The life of an average Jane or Joe will vanish without anyone knowing or caring about it. This era will be considered somewhat frustrating by historians, since so little will be known about it.
 
And make sure they are clean ones this time - and that doesn't just mean turning them inside out.
 
They know about my "system!"

I knew I shouldn't have gotten that DTV converter box.
 

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