Why are guns made to kill?

ponderingturtle said:
BUt look at the massive ammounts of electrical power, and massive infarstructure it took to make that couple of pounds of fissionable material.

That equals many planes in terms of resources.
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But that one plane and couple of pounds of fissionable material did the work of many planes and bombs


Oh it took far longer than that, the goal was to turn the city into a firestorm after all and so many people where killed not by energy from the bombs but their own homes burning, or in other cases their clothes spontaniously combusting from the hot air of the fire storm.
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And the bomb created a firestorm in much less time not to mention leveled almost all structures for several miles.


I don't see that this is relevent as one the atomic bomb required those bombers so for the R&D of the bombers it is a total wash between them.
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My bad.


Oh they where, but the destruction was not really unprecidented especialy in terms of lives lost.
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Those fusion bombs we got now are quite a few orders of magnetude more powerfull than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
 
uruk said:
But that one plane and couple of pounds of fissionable material did the work of many planes and bombs
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Are you aware of how large the buildings where needed that made that fissionable material? There is a reason billions of dollars where spend and we got 3 bombs out of it.

The manhattan project cost $2 billion dollars, it had 130,000 people working on it. It had a mile long gas diffusion system(well the building was only half a mile long as they made a U turn half way)

A B20 cost $639,188 all 3,970 cost about as much as the manhattan project.

German physicists figured that it would take the output of a nation to get enough fissionable material to build a bomb, and when looking at the way the US did it, they figured that that was basicaly what happened.

Those fusion bombs we got now are quite a few orders of magnetude more powerfull than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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And have never been used to kill anyone. The only ones used where those two and from a cost per death rate they where not very good.
 
Autolite said:
So bring it on! Unless you're too afraid to deal with me and my rather temperamental Guinea pig...
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Oh! So were going get involved in a rodent weapon escalation war.

Well I'll see your tempermental guinea pig and raise you one bitter weasle from a broken family with nothing left to live for!

Plus, he's got a tattoo. And a nipple peircing.

Well actually the tattoo is just some ketchup that I accidentaly spilled on him and the nipple ring is a clip-on, but I swear he is really, really bitter.
 
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uruk said:
Oh! So were going get involved in a rodent weapon escalation war. Well I'll see your tempermental guinea pig and raise you one bitter weasle from a broken family with nothing left to live for!
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Would that be a CCW (Concealed Carry Weasel)? Anyhow, I've got a friend with bi-polar gerbil and that's something you most certainly DON'T want to mess with...
 
ponderingturtle said:
Are you aware of how large the buildings where needed that made that fissionable material? There is a reason billions of dollars where spend and we got 3 bombs out of it.
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It takes large buildings to build planes, ships, tanks, bombs and support equipment too. Two of those bombs did the work of quite a few of those things, and saved the cost of money, equipment and people (both American and Japanese) of a full scale invasion of Japan that was planned in case the bombs didn't work.

The manhattan project cost $2 billion dollars, it had 130,000 people working on it. It had a mile long gas diffusion system(well the building was only half a mile long as they made a U turn half way)

A B20 cost $639,188 all 3,970 cost about as much as the manhattan project.
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the total cost of WWII is estimated, by some sources, at over a trillion dollars. and according to this site: http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/socialeffectsofwar/ig/Women-in-Wartime-Industries/ six million women alone worked at building bombers. Just the bombers.

German physicists figured that it would take the output of a nation to get enough fissionable material to build a bomb, and when looking at the way the US did it, they figured that that was basicaly what happened.
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Well it was a good thing that we could afford it at the time.



And have never been used to kill anyone. The only ones used where those two and from a cost per death rate they where not very good.
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Oddly they actually helped in avoiding any full scale out break of war between Russia and the US.

You know, I can't seem to find any numbers on how much the carpet or firebombing of Japan cost in terms of money. Do you have any source for those figgures?
 
Autolite said:
Would that be a CCW (Concealed Carry Weasel)? Anyhow, I've got a friend with bi-polar gerbil and that's something you most certainly DON'T want to mess with...
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That's nothing. I got a muskrat that won't stop whining about how much his gout is acting up.

I'd put the weasle on him but he's got his nipple ring stuck on the hamster. Don't ask, but I think the hamster was trying to lick off the ketchup
 
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uruk said:
That's nothing. I got a muskrat that won't stop whining about how much his gout is acting up. I'd put the weasle on him but he's got his nipple ring stuck on the hamster. Don't ask, but I think the hamster was trying to lick off the ketchup
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Perhaps we should tone down our posts. No one really wants to see unrestricterd rodent war. Besides, I've just been notified that I've been "red flagged" by PETA and the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Furryanimals). I fear that wholesale Guinea pig confiscation might be just around the corner...
 
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uruk said:
That's nothing. I got a muskrat that won't stop whining about how much his gout is acting up.

I'd put the weasle on him but he's got his nipple ring stuck on the hamster. Don't ask, but I think the hamster was trying to lick off the ketchup
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Real men carry chinchillas and the sooner you guys learn this the sooner people will stop laughing at you behind your backs.
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Autolite said:
Perhaps we should tone down our posts. No one really wants to see unrestricterd rodent war. Besides, I've just been notified that I've been "red flagged" by PETA and the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Furryanimals). I fear that wholesale Guinea pig confiscation might be just around the corner...
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The last thing we want is Bush to send UN observers to our houses looking for WFDs. (Weapons of Furry Destruction)

Besides they can take my Guinea pig when they pry it from my cold, dead, rodent dropping infested hands.
 
Drudgewire said:
Real men carry chinchillas and the sooner you guys learn this the sooner people will stop laughing at you behind your backs. [qimg]http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/colbert.gif[/qimg]
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So you think your a two chincilla packin' hombre, do ya? Think you can take on the weasle and me? Well as soon as my weasle gets his nipple ring unhitched from that there hamster, we'll show you who's the what fer..........

Fer god's sake Larry! The damned nipple ring is a clip-on!!!! Just take it off!!!!!!!....What?!?!??........I don't care if the hamster is sticky!!! This guy has got two chinchillas!!!......What?!?!? No the chinchillas won't think you're gay!!

Oh kay, Hombre Just as soon as the hamster gets washed up and Larry puts his nipple ring back on, you're in serious trouble!!
 
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Oh the chinchillas are for everyday protection. If I know someone is heavily armed? Well, let's just say you never want to bring a weasel to a mink fight.
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Drudgewire said:
Oh the chinchillas are for everyday protection. If I know someone is heavily armed? Well, let's just say you never want to bring a weasel to a mink fight. [qimg]http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/clint.gif[/qimg]
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Okay, Just don't bring any lemmings. God! they'll just go on and on about how they "lost it big" when the dot com bubble burst. You'll want to go running off a cliff into the ocean after a few minuets with them.
 
Drudgewire said:
Oh the chinchillas are for everyday protection.
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I've often thought about getting myself a chinchilla but the girlfriend doesn't want me keeping one in the house. She's always telling me that a burglar could break in, find the chinchilla, and use it against us.

BTW, can you get one in tactical black???
 
Autolite said:
I've often thought about getting myself a chinchilla but the girlfriend doesn't want me keeping one in the house. She's always telling me that a burglar could break in, find the chinchilla, and use it against us.

BTW, can you get one in tactical black???
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You do know that statistics show that a chinchilla owner is more likely to use that chinchilla on himself when suicidal.
 
uruk said:
You do know that statistics show that a chinchilla owner is more likely to use that chinchilla on himself when suicidal.
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Yeah, I think that I might have read something like that myself but I just look at it as PETA hyperbole. If someone is suicidal then they have a vast array of small rodentia that can be used to do the deed. There are deer mice, moles, chipmunks, gophers and squirrels. They just come up these with stats to use legitimate chinchilla owners as scapegoats...
 
Autolite said:
I've often thought about getting myself a chinchilla but the girlfriend doesn't want me keeping one in the house. She's always telling me that a burglar could break in, find the chinchilla, and use it against us.
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More anti-chinchilla fear-mongering. Ask the Swiss about their accident to righteous gnawing ratio.

BTW, can you get one in tactical black???
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You can... buuuuuut it's sort of in the same vein as attaching antlers to a field mouse for a live broadcast of a Christmas Carol. :eek:
 
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