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Ed The Fascism Checklist, Trump 2025

So, the president who 'just says things, it's all performance' calling for military occupation of large cities in control of the opposition, 'to fight crime'. That's not fascism right? It's not like he's done it twice already.
Besides, its not like he's called all democrats criminals repeatedly.
 
dirtywick said:
to me it’s that they can only define fascism retroactively. like, he’s not hitler and there hasn’t been a holocaust and until there is it doesn’t count, but what they’re missing is not defining traits of fascism while only considering the inevitable result.
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"lololol, obviously that kid getting out of his car in a school parking and walking menacingly towards the main entrance lot can't be a school shooter, school shooters kill people! How many people has he shot? When did he hold anyone hostage? Where's the news coverage saying he's a school shooter? lolololol triggered libs, you're always fearmongering!!1"

After kid kills a dozen people: HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN!?!!?1111
 
Resume said:
Not fascism, not at all.

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Is this from a spoof website? Because if it is genuinely a White House communication then the Congress should be having his unelected cabinet removed by force and all presidential communications channels shut down. Trump can stay, alone and unadvised, living in his own squalor the White House.
 
johnny karate said:
Trump threatens an American city with war.

In a related story, the people who told us Trump isn't a fascist have yet to explain how this isn't fascist and remain hiding under their rocks like sniveling cowards.
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They can give up all pretense now. They know they got the regime they wanted and that there's no turning back.
 
Well, I still don't think he's smart enough or well educated enough to actually be a fascist, but the difference between what he is, and fascism is not of much note. A distinction without difference.

I still largely object to the use of the term on account of:
A. There are other bad things and authoritarians than fascists. He is far more like Chavez than Mussolini.
B. It's pointless to call him a fascist as fascist has just been an ad hom since about 1948. Much like commie, I mostly just role my eyes when folks use the term.

ETA: He's surrounded by folks that are legitimately called fascists; the Catholic Integralists (essentially phalangists) and Common Good "Conservatives".
 
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ahhell said:
Well, I still don't think he's smart enough or well educated enough to actually be a fascist, but the difference between what he is, and fascism is not of much note. A distinction without difference.

I still largely object to the use of the term on account of:
A. There are other bad things and authoritarians than fascists. He is far more like Chavez than Mussolini.
B. It's pointless to call him a fascist as fascist has just been an ad hom since about 1948. Much like commie, I mostly just role my eyes when folks use the term.

ETA: He's surrounded by folks that are legitimately called fascists; the Catholic Integralists (essentially phalangists) and Common Good "Conservatives".
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Just to be clear, do you view a president who has already used the military to occupy multiple American cities threatening another American city with war to be fascist in a general, non-academic sense?
 
I think I've finally figured it out, me trying to argue that trump isn't a fascist is basically me arguing that factoid doesn't mean trivia. Words move on, I should let them. Because, yes, he is an authoritarian and would be a dictator to the extent he can get away with it.
 
well the thread was a running checklist, right? idk how many boxes need to get checked before you go from authoritarian to fascist. at least, enough for you to comfortably let go of the not technically fascism angle i suppose.
 
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