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The behaviour of UK police officers.

The trial re the fracas with the two brothers at Manchester Airport is still ongong. Jury has been out a while. Judge now willing to accept a majority verdict.

The jury was sent out to consider verdicts on Monday and today (Tuesday), following a note by the jury, Judge Neil Flewitt KC told them he would accept majority decisions. After one juror was discharged on Monday due to a pre-planned holiday, 11 jurors remain.


After the remaining panel of jurors sent the judge a note the contents of which were not read out in court Judge Flewitt told them: "It's always better if you can to reach verdicts on which you are all agreed. But I'm going to ask you to continue your deliberations for a while longer."


However, he added that if they could not reach unanimous verdicts then he would be able to accept a majority verdict of 10 jurors. MANCHESTER EVENING NEWS
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Dave Rogers said:
Am I being cynical in thinking there won't be any 'concerned local citizens' protesting against the South Yorkshire Police?

Dave
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Depends - what colour were the police officers?

Sadly, this can hardly be a surprise to people knowing what we do today about the "culture" in police forces.
 
Dave Rogers said:
Am I being cynical in thinking there won't be any 'concerned local citizens' protesting against the South Yorkshire Police?

Dave
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Probably not. It's an interesting reflection on the racist basis for a lot of the allegations and insinuations.

I wonder will those who were busy accusing the police and other agencies of being unwilling to investigate the allegations because of fears of allegations of racism be asking now if the police were simply unwilling to investigate their own?
 
catsmate said:
Probably not. It's an interesting reflection on the racist basis for a lot of the allegations and insinuations.

I wonder will those who were busy accusing the police and other agencies of being unwilling to investigate the allegations because of fears of allegations of racism be asking now if the police were simply unwilling to investigate their own?
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No.

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Darat said:
Depends - what colour were the police officers?
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Well, the one who was named, who died in 2015 just a week after being put on restricted duties, was called Hassan Ali, so I could take a guess.

None of the former officers arrested by SYP since December 2024 have yet been charged, though one of the accused men can be named as PC Hassan Ali. He died in 2015, a week after being put on restricted duties due to alleged misconduct relating to the grooming gangs scandal.
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ETA: The death appears to have accidental, btw, though I'm sure a CT could easily be generated.

www.bbc.co.uk

Man cleared over Rotherham PC's car crash death

Killed police officer was under investigation over alleged links to Rotherham child sex abuse scandal.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk


ETA2: And Ali wasn't one of those accused of rape.
 
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Carrot Flower King said:
www.theguardian.com

Met arrested woman after Facebook posts about ex-partner – a serving officer

London force sent three officers at 4.45am, who put her in the back of a van and seized her phone and computer
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Cheating copper sets colleagues on the ex he cheated on for a couple of vague insults and catching him out at the cheating...
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Any news item about the Met gets an instincitve "Oh, God, what now?" cringe from me in anticipation. It's like a parody of a movie about some corrupt small town police department in the middle of nowhere, except somehow it's real and covers a huge city. I despair.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Any news item about the Met gets an instincitve "Oh, God, what now?" cringe from me in anticipation. It's like a parody of a movie about some corrupt small town police department in the middle of nowhere, except somehow it's real and covers a huge city. I despair.
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Absolute scum.
 
zooterkin said:
Well, I'm not denying that the ones we hear about are. The ones I happen to know in person aren't.
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Why don't you ask them to tell you about the time they witnessed a colleague going "a lttle too far" one way or the other and they turned a blind eye? Y'know like abuse of power, lying, inappropriate conduct or assault to name but a very few.

Oh I just know that your acquaintances woud never behave like that, like scum, to put it bluntly but if you are making the case that they aren't in any way complicit with allowing such scum behaviour or flourish then you're naive.

On the other hand if you, as you should, know that the culture and training in the British police force breeds, nurtures and vehemently protects this scum then you'll probably only learn the hard way.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
www.theguardian.com

Protester arrested over ‘Plasticine Action’ T-shirt: ‘How ridiculous is this?’

Miles Pickering says crowd at protest over Palestine Action ban was laughing at ‘silliness’ of scene as he was detained
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This is even more ridiculous than being nicked for holding a copy of a Private Eye cartoon.

Who knew that Morph was a terrorist mastermind?
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About five minutes later, the arresting officer approached him again. “He said: ‘I’ve got good news and I’ve got bad news.’ I said: ‘What’s the good news?’ He said: ‘I’m de-arresting you.’

“And I said: ‘What’s the bad news?’ He said: ‘It’s going to be really embarrassing for me.’"
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A local one.
rdg.today

Serving Thames Valley Police officer charged with rape and sexual assault

Following an investigation by Thames Valley Police, a serving officer based at Reading police station has been charged with rape
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The charges relate to the rape and sexual assault of a woman at the Premier Inn on Avebury Boulevard, Milton Keynes, on the evening of December 17, 2023. It was reported to the force on July 11 last year.

PC Thomas Irwin, aged 25, based at Reading police station, was arrested on July 18 last year and suspended.
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As far as I can make out, this woman was organising some sort of protest at a hotel housing migrants, on Facebook. The police trawled her Facebook page until they found a post (to her family) they could characterise as a hate crime. When they showed up to her house she was out. (At a hospital appointment with her severely disabled daughter.) A neighbour told the police that. They didn't go away. After some little time, when she was only ten minutes from getting home - which they had apparently been told - they got a carpenter to break into her house.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967952055424913870

Once upon a time I would have thought, there must be more to it than that. Not any more, this is happening on a regular basis.
 
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