Merged Israel Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

No, its true.

A much higher percentage of Gaza's housing, schools, hospitals and civilian infrastructure has been destroyed than in Ukraine.

A much higher percentage of Gaza's civilian population has been killed, than in Ukraine.

So yes, the destruction in Gaza is far worse than in Ukraine.
You moved the goalpost. Your claim wasn’t about the level of destruction. Your claim was about Israel being worse than Russia. And without considering the context of the conflict, and in particular how the other party is acting, you cannot reasonably use the level of destruction as a measure of guilt. But then, you have never been reasonable about any of this. You are an apologist for Hamas.
What's happening in Gaza is a genocide.
Case in point. No, this is not genocide. It’s just war. The only side trying to commit genocide is Hamas, and thank god they are weaker than Israel.
 
"Israel’s defence minister has laid out plans to force all Palestinians in Gaza into a camp on the ruins of Rafah, in a scheme that legal experts and academics described as a blueprint for crimes against humanity.

Israel Katz said he has ordered Israel’s military to prepare for establishing a camp, which he called a “humanitarian city”, on the ruins of the city of Rafah, Haaretz newspaper reported.

Palestinians would go through “security screening” before entering, and once inside would not be allowed to leave, Katz said at a briefing for Israeli journalists."

 
You moved the goalpost. Your claim wasn’t about the level of destruction. Your claim was about Israel being worse than Russia.

I didn't set the goalpost, The Great Zaganza did. But still, he never said "Israel was worse than Russia", you're reading wrong.


....You are an apologist for Hamas...
No, but YOU are an apologist for the many racist war crimes being committed against the Palestinian people, because you believe Jews are of more value than non-Jews, especially Muslims and Arabs. Why else would you accept the land theft, home destruction, mass-murder, terrorism, starvation, cleansing being committed by Israel? Clearly you're a racist who hates Arabs and Muslims. You've also previously stated that Arabs are a failed culture who produce nothing and can produce nothing, proving my point.
 
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Clearly you're a racist who hates Arabs and Muslims. You've also previously stated that Arabs are a failed culture who produce nothing and can produce nothing, proving my point.
Does it prove your point? Maybe, if I was wrong. Funny thing, though: you haven't even tried to show I'm wrong.
 
Yes, it does.
And still no attempt to prove me wrong. Meanwhile, you keep supporting Hamas every time. You side with the people who would kill you, over those who would not. That is stupidity of the highest order.
 
And still no attempt to prove me wrong. Meanwhile, you keep supporting Hamas every time. You side with the people who would kill you, over those who would not. That is stupidity of the highest order.
Actually the settlers and the IDFascists WOULD kill me. Or at least put me in the hospital, since I am not a fellow Fascist.

And no, being opposed to fascist/war crime IDF tactics does NOT equal supporting Hamas.

I do not support Hamas in any way, shape or form.

But YOU ARE a RACIST who hates Arabs, Muslims and possibly also non-Jews in general, since you think Jews should be held to a special standard that excuses/ignores war crimes and racism and terrorism.
 
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We could test to what degree Hamas would protect the civilian population by giving them AA capabilities and tanks.
Want to try a test run?
 
Israel in Gaza has killed more children, journalists, aid workers and civilians in 20 months than Russia has in Ukraine in 3.5 years.
It has destroyed more hospitals, water sources, houses, schools, places of worship and historical sites in Gaza than Russia has in Ukraine.
More Palestinians have died in the 20 months in Israeli prisons than Israeli hostages have died in Gaza.

These are the facts.
 
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We could test to what degree Hamas would protect the civilian population by giving them AA capabilities and tanks.
We have already had the test of whether or not they protect civilians.

They do not. They endanger them on purpose.
 
Israel in Gaza has killed more children, journalists, aid workers and civilians in 20 months than Russia has in Ukraine in 3.5 years.
It has destroyed more hospitals, water sources, houses, schools, places of worship and historical sites in Gaza than Russia has in Ukraine.
More Palestinians have died in the 20 months in Israeli prisons than Israeli hostages have died in Gaza.

These are the facts.
Hamas deliberately endangers children, journalists, and aid workers. Ukraine tries to protect aid workers.

These are the facts.
 
I would be of the opinion that a nuclear backed Iran is less dangerous to the middle east and the world than Israel is. Iran's politics and involvements in the region are defensive in nature, designed to shore up the legitimacy of the regime and maintain the intergrity of the country and its borders. Israel, on the other hand is wholly aggressive, currently expanding its territory at the expense of Palestine, Lebanon and Syria and eyeing lands further afield in Arabia and Mesopotamia. The river meant in the original zionist formulation of "from the river to the sea" is not the Jordan but the Tigris.

Well I don't know. While I do know that Iran hasn't overtly gone around attacking other countries recently, as Israel has, but I don't know that nukes are any safer, in general, with Iran. In my book, both countries are crazies. And neither should be allowed to have, or to keep, nukes.

I'm of the view that in order for any kind of justness, of justice, of fairness, to obtain, then Iran must also be allowed to defend itself with nukes at the standby, as Israel has and does. Or else Israel should be sanctioned into starvation to get them to get rid of their nukes and comply with global nuclear norms. ...But I also realize that in a world where, on actually attacking other sovereign nations, and actually committing genocide, and actually committing war crimes, Israel, far from being sanctioned, is actually supported with money and weapons and actually going to war on their side, in such a world the expectation of "justice" is silly. ..."We" are no different than Russia, and Putin: just that we are who we are, and will hurt when our countries are bombed (as we don't hurt when others are bombed and killed and genocided, because we are bereft of human empathy, outside of "our" tribe, however defined); and so we do what we do, as long as we are able to, just like Putin does.

Agreed, though, the crazy psychopath helming Israel at this moment does appear way more desperate and dangerous, than the crazy psychopath helming Iran at this moment. As at this moment, certainly. Agreed as far as that much.
 
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Israel uses human shields, and the world doesn't care.

Who has the higher ratio of military personnel to civilians killed?
Hamas or the IDF?
 
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Hamas uses civilians as human shields.

Israel doesn't care, and bombs the ◊◊◊◊ out of them anyway.
Which is exactly what international law prescribes. A belligerent is not entitled to win a battle by using human shields. Instead, the human cost of defeating them is on their account, not their enemy's.

The whole point of things like the Geneva convention is to establish that these are not acceptable strategies, and that a belligerent is not entitled to win by using them. The moral burden for trying them out is properly placed on the belligerent that's trying them out, not the one that has to avoid defeat in spite of them.

The only reason Hamas is still trying them is because they've gathered enough useful idiots who are willing to endorse their crimes against humanity as a path to victory.
 
Hamas uses civilians as human shields.

Israel doesn't care, and bombs the ◊◊◊◊ out of them anyway.
That is among the most vile, despicable, morally reprehensible points of view I have ever encountered. It is outright psychopathic.
 

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