Cont: Brexit XII

[Klimax]

◊◊◊◊ in our drinking water is a small price to pay for the twin glories of Brexit & Privatisation! To anyone that complains I say "Let them drink Evian!"

Wonder what you!re doing wrong, because in Czech republic we have plenty of private companies running public water and there are no issues.

 

[GlennB]

Wonder what you!re doing wrong, because in Czech republic we have plenty of private companies running public water and there are no issues.

I've heard that it's cheaper for them to pay the fines than sort out the infrastructure.

Also, the overseeing authority - the Environment Agency - is understaffed and underfunded, so when there's a pollution report that the EA can't check then the water company gives its own assessment, which 'won't necessarily be totally honest'

The whole system is broken.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Allow me a laugh or two!

Majority of Brexit voters ‘would accept free movement’ to access single market

Europe-wide polling finds UK and EU leaders now out of step with public opinion and pursue ‘ambitious reset’

www.theguardian.com

Somebody shoud tell them what they have to do is apply to rejoin.

 

[The Don]

I've heard that it's cheaper for them to pay the fines than sort out the infrastructure.

Also, the overseeing authority - the Environment Agency - is understaffed and underfunded, so when there's a pollution report that the EA can't check then the water company gives its own assessment, which 'won't necessarily be totally honest'

The whole system is broken.

When I was in the industry, the regulator was also pretty toothless

 

[Darat]

Those remainers screwing us up again:

European Commission suing UK over post-Brexit freedom of movement ‘shortcomings’

Britain had failed to comply with EU law on the free movement of European citizens, the commission said.

www.standard.co.uk

 

[wobs]

How Brexit is succeeding:

Why Brexit is working - and how that has profound implications for democratic politics

Brexit was, above all, a project of political disruption. And it's succeeding.

neilschofieldhughes.substack.com

...in spreading political disruption. A good read of the politics making it hard to address the issues. How/why Labour struggle to be a strong party.

 

[Norman Alexander]

How Brexit is succeeding:

Why Brexit is working - and how that has profound implications for democratic politics

Brexit was, above all, a project of political disruption. And it's succeeding.

neilschofieldhughes.substack.com

...in spreading political disruption. A good read of the politics making it hard to address the issues. How/why Labour struggle to be a strong party.

Rather than the tried-and-tested conventional method of redecorating by putting up new wallpaper every few years, Brexit succeeded in throwing a Faragist grenade in the room instead. When the smoke finally cleared, more tatty Tory wallpaper was hardly going to help, especially dealing with the EU neighbours right next door who sort of heard the bang and moved away. The only real solution is the whole room needs to be cleaned out, repaired properly, new roof put on, repainted, and relationships with the neighbours restored. The problem today is Labour is reluctant to start that process, and Farage keeps jumping up on the rubble unhindered shouting "I did this!"

 

[dudalb]

Rumors that Trump is going to try to dispute Uk Politics the same way he is trying to disrupt Canadian politics.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Rumors that Trump is going to try to dispute Uk Politics the same way he is trying to disrupt Canadian politics.

That is, not at all.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

That is, not at all.

Getting ready for war!

Trump refuses to rule out use of military force to take control of Greenland and the Panama Canal

U.S. president-elect Donald Trump on Tuesday said he would not rule out the use of military force to seize control of the Panama Canal and Greenland, as he declared U.S. control of both to be vital to American national security.

www.ctvnews.ca

I just gotta see the invasion of Greenland!

And:

The Panama Canal moves roughly $270 billion worth of cargo annually–it's the trade route taken by 40% of all U.S. container traffic alone and handles about 5% of all global maritime trade.

.Let's just close that down for a week or two of "special military action".

 

[Norman Alexander]

Getting ready for war!

Trump refuses to rule out use of military force to take control of Greenland and the Panama Canal

U.S. president-elect Donald Trump on Tuesday said he would not rule out the use of military force to seize control of the Panama Canal and Greenland, as he declared U.S. control of both to be vital to American national security.

www.ctvnews.ca

I just gotta see the invasion of Greenland!

And:

.Let's just close that down for a week or two of "special military action".

Then let's have the Canuk Invasion through NY state...

 

[The Don]

Rumors that Trump is going to try to dispute Uk Politics the same way he is trying to disrupt Canadian politics.

He and Musk are already doing this by claiming that the government should release extreme right wing activist "Tommy Robinson" and stand down because they're not doing enough about Muslim grooming gangs despite:

• Prosecutions having gone ahead. "Tommy Robinson" is currently in jail because of inflammatory comments he made outside court which jeopardised that prosecution
• The previous government having 14 years to do something about it
• The current government having a public enquiry which isn't good enough for the right wingers because *reasons*

The right wing media have decided that this is the big cause that's going to damage Labour and are constantly promoting the controversy. Cabinet members are being threatened which is par for the course for the right wing.

Trump wants client administrations in all countries.

Though I'm not sure how this necessarily relates to Brexit EXCEPT that whilst Denmark will have the EU's support in the event that Trump launches a trade war against it in order to obtain Greenland, the UK won't have allies if he decides to do the same against the UK to destabilise the Starmer government.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Britain can definitely be for sale to Trump. But the price will be far beyond what the US or Musk could afford. So he can't claim it isn't available for him to wreck. Just that he's too awful of a businessman to afford it.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

He and Musk are already doing this by claiming that the government should release extreme right wing activist "Tommy Robinson" and stand down because they're not doing enough about Muslim grooming gangs despite:

• Prosecutions having gone ahead. "Tommy Robinson" is currently in jail because of inflammatory comments he made outside court which jeopardised that prosecution
• The previous government having 14 years to do something about it
• The current government having a public enquiry which isn't good enough for the right wingers because *reasons*

The right wing media have decided that this is the big cause that's going to damage Labour and are constantly promoting the controversy. Cabinet members are being threatened which is par for the course for the right wing.

Trump wants client administrations in all countries.

Though I'm not sure how this necessarily relates to Brexit EXCEPT that whilst Denmark will have the EU's support in the event that Trump launches a trade war against it in order to obtain Greenland, the UK won't have allies if he decides to do the same against the UK to destabilise the Starmer government.

Yaxley-Lennon's supporters are so stupid that he can tell them that he's reporting from outside the court where grooming gang members are being prosecuted at that very moment to tell them that the police won't prosecute grooming gang members (send me money).

 

[zooterkin]

This thread is about Brexit. There are plenty of other threads to discuss what the incoming POTUS is up to; unless what he's doing is directly connected to Brexit, please take that discussion to a more appropriate place.

Please keep on topic, thank you.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: zooterkin

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

OK then.

Brexit unwinding?

Starmer set for 11th hour Brexit reset talks with Macron and Ursula von der Leyen

The prime minister will meet the European Commission and French presidents on the fringes of the European Political Community (EPC) summit in Albania with the Brexit reset talks heating up

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

OK then.

Brexit unwinding?

Starmer set for 11th hour Brexit reset talks with Macron and Ursula von der Leyen

The prime minister will meet the European Commission and French presidents on the fringes of the European Political Community (EPC) summit in Albania with the Brexit reset talks heating up

www.independent.co.uk

“
We think that because of the trust we built, we can get a better deal. The European Union have understood from the beginning those red lines,” Ms Reeves told The Guardian.

What...I don't even...lol...wtf? Hahahahaahaaaaa!!!! That's so funny!

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

“
We think that because of the trust we built, we can get a better deal. The European Union have understood from the beginning those red lines,” Ms Reeves told The Guardian.

What...I don't even...lol...wtf? Hahahahaahaaaaa!!!! That's so funny!

Is she a native English speaker? "European Union" is singular. Should it not be 'has" not "have"?

 

[gypsyjackson]

Is she a native English speaker? "European Union" is singular. Should it not be 'has" not "have"?

It’s pretty much standard English in the UK. I think it’s called a ‘team plural’ by some linguists. I’m not keen on it, but it’s been around a while.

 

[Norman Alexander]

So it will be a friction-free trade and movement agreement that looks, walks, smells and quacks like EU membership. But it won't actually be EU membership.

Got it.