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Trump's Second Term

Trump on egg prices reaching an all-time high: "Well, there's the flu. Before I ever got here it was at an all-time high."

Trump on the EU possibly banning some food imports from the US: "I don't mind. Let them do it. Let them do it, they're just hurting themselves."
 
Protests are likely to be sparsely attended tomorrow as it is going to be brutally cold around here.
The wind chills are expected to fall as low as -35 degrees on Monday morning and could dip as low as -40 degrees during the early hours of Tuesday
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Donald's Napoleonic quip about “he who saves his country doesn’t violate any laws” actually derives from one of Cicero's Catilinarian orations and goes back to the year of Cicero's Consulship and his exposure and exile of Catlina. He procured a 'senatus consultum ultimum' a permission to legitimise the use of force against citizens of Rome.

Do we think Donald knows this? maybe he has read Cicero? or one of Mary Beard's books?

Or someone just fed him the line

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Catilinarian orations - Wikipedia

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Andy_Ross said:
Donald's Napoleonic quip about “he who saves his country doesn’t violate any laws” actually derives from one of Cicero's Catilinarian orations and goes back to the year of Cicero's Consulship and his exposure and exile of Catlina. He procured a 'senatus consultum ultimum' a permission to legitimise the use of force against citizens of Rome.

Do we think Donald knows this? maybe he has read Cicero? or one of Mary Beard's books?

Or someone just fed him the line

en.wikipedia.org

Catilinarian orations - Wikipedia

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"When the President does it, it isn't illegal." -- Richard M. Nixon
 
Andy_Ross said:
Donald's Napoleonic quip about “he who saves his country doesn’t violate any laws” actually derives from one of Cicero's Catilinarian orations and goes back to the year of Cicero's Consulship and his exposure and exile of Catlina. He procured a 'senatus consultum ultimum' a permission to legitimise the use of force against citizens of Rome.
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You know what Napoleon also said? “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.”

Apparently. I haven't yet found a citation for it.
 
theprestige said:
I don't think the numbers will be there. The numbers weren't there for the election. The numbers weren't here in downtown Portland after the election. Everyone expected the usual rioting, looting, vandalism, and arson from the usual suspects, but they never manifested.

But really, the numbers weren't there for the election. I doubt these marches will succeed in seThisnding the message that the elections themselves failed to do.
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This is just a first step. Protest movements can't always be built overnight. The POSOTUS' strategy has been to move quickly in order to try to keep the opposition a step behind.
 
As of the close of the day on February 16, my positive/negative score on the Trump administration stands at -149.

16 February 2025
-1: Trump claims egg prices "were" at an all-time high before they reached an all-time high in February [34]
(Or maybe he's saying avian flu was at an all-time high. Nevertheless, I haven't seen him advance any policies—or money—that would help stop the epidemic.)

Added to February 14:
-1: Elon Musk retweets, then deletes, debunked claim Chelsea Clinton stole $84 million in U.S. foreign aid [32]

Footnotes:

32: Atlanta Black Star: ‘Lies and Conspiracies’: Chelsea Clinton Rips MAGA After Elon Musk Amplifies Debunked Claim She Stole $84 Million In U.S. Foreign Aid

34: Trump on egg prices reaching an all-time high: "Well, there's the flu. Before I ever got here it was at an all-time high."
 
I am curious about what Musk and Trump have been told about the National Debt and the Trade Deficit that made them panic this much.
Either don't don't understand the fundamentals, or they know something the Markets don't.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I am curious about what Musk and Trump have been told about the National Debt and the Trade Deficit that made them panic this much.
Either don't don't understand the fundamentals, or they know something the Markets don't.
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I reckon that it's a combination of a simplistic zero-sum understanding of global economics (trade deficit bad, trade surplus good) together with a simplistic message to the base.

Both Trump and Musk surely must understand that debt can be good - especially if it allows you to invest - but they see an opportunity to make money from the chaos that follows an unplanned and uncoordinated reduction in government funding.
 
President Donald Trump has asked the US Supreme Court to allow him to fire the head of an independent ethics agency that protects whistleblower federal employees.

He has filed an emergency appeal to the country's highest court to rule on whether he can fire Hampton Dellinger, head of the US Office of Special Counsel.

www.bbc.co.uk

Trump appeals to Supreme Court over firing of US agency boss

The leader of an independent whistleblowing agency sued after he was fired by email this month.
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Andy_Ross said:
President Donald Trump has asked the US Supreme Court to allow him to fire the head of an independent ethics agency that protects whistleblower federal employees.

He has filed an emergency appeal to the country's highest court to rule on whether he can fire Hampton Dellinger, head of the US Office of Special Counsel.

www.bbc.co.uk

Trump appeals to Supreme Court over firing of US agency boss

The leader of an independent whistleblowing agency sued after he was fired by email this month.
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Oh you silly sausage, you only need an independent agency that protects whistleblowers when there's a risk of illegal stuff being done. The SCOTUS has already ruled that everything that President Trump does as President (and by extension everything his administration and chosen Tech Bros do) is legal so the agency is completely superfluous.

If and when the Democrats are ever in power then the agency becomes important because everything they do is illegal and a suitable leader will be appointed by the GOP to ensure that appropriate scrutiny is applied.
 
The Don said:
Both Trump and Musk surely must understand that debt can be good
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Our current national debt is not good. It's a big ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ problem. We've been putting off dealing with it for decades as it got worse and worse, with excuse after excuse about why it was OK when it wasn't. Your statement, while true, only serves as a deflection.
 
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