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Cont: UFOs: The Research, the Evidence

I am continually amused by the religious who assign some sort of special status to this planet. After all,
researchers estimate about 50 sextillion potentially habitable planets in the universe
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science.howstuffworks.com

How many planets in our universe could support life?

We don't know the answer to how many civilizations might exist in the universe. But we do know the factors that allow life on Earth. Are there other planets that fit the bill? Oh yes indeed.
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What an immensely wasteful stupid God to create all of them but make us so special. :bgrin:
 
“Trained observers” for the win.

The guided missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), which is part of the USS Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group, mistakenly fired on and hit the F/A-18, which was flying off the USS Harry S. Truman. Both pilots were safely recovered. Initial assessments indicate that one of the crew members sustained minor injuries.
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How are they meant to identify aliens when they are unable to identify their own?
 
EHocking said:
“Trained observers” for the win.



How are they meant to identify aliens when they are unable to identify their own?
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That's a scary incident. It does show how difficult it can be to identify lights in the sky. As far as the person who shot it down knew, it was a UFO, or at least an MFO (misidentified flying object).

And when people say things like "UFOs are real", whether they intend it or not, all that really means is that sometimes it's difficult to identify a flying object (or aerial phenomenon). In that very literal sense of the word, UFOs are indeed real. The same thing applies to statements like "US Navy Acknowledges Unidentified Aerial Phenomena/DoD confirms leaked video is real", which is the topic of another thread in this forum. Acknowledging that a video is, in fact, a "real" video does not mean that what we see in the video is of extraterrestrial origin.
 
So now I've watched it and found it to be not a great production. History, current events, weak explanations, waffling, and etc all mishmashed together.. Possibly the only thorough piece was on Roswell but I would have liked to see a n analysis of Arnold's Flying Saucers, for example, because the incident was mentioned but just left there. The alternate, mundane explanation is pretty convincing.

Mick West's stuff could have done with more diagrams and less backyard science.

I suppose the conclusion that there may be something but we don't know is reasonable.

The IR "sightings" explanation was nice. And I did learn that there are a couple of science-based groups who are trying to collect more data. We'll see what the results are.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
There's absolutely nothing in the article.
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There is something, but not a great deal. The actual info is very much what was presented by Dr David Clarke at QEDCon 2023. The photo appears to be genuine, and was apparently suppressed by the authorities. What it's a photo of, and who took it, remain mysteries, but mainly due to lack of information. It was taken at the time of Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, so it is possible it was an experimental aircraft being tested.

QED rewatch: UFOs, UAPs, and the Quest for Understanding (2023) | QED 2024

In an age of omnipresent camera technology coupled with advanced image and video manipulation tools, ufology has witnessed a renaissance. Last year even saw public hearings in Washington DC, airing the evidence (or lack thereof) for what are now often known as UAPs (Unidentified Anomalous...
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I saw a weird thing at six in the morning the other day. It was still completely dark outside and was making a cup of tea in the kitchen. The kitchen has no curtains and I saw something with flashing red and green lights fly across my field of view. I thought it was a distant plane but then it stopped moving and began to descend vertically. It came down and disappeared behind a nearby tree, and I realized then it was not up in the sky but quite close by. It was completely silent and the only thing I can think it was is a drone. But what anyone would be flying a drone over the town at six in the morning for, I can't imagine.
 
Scorpion said:
I saw a weird thing at six in the morning the other day. It was still completely dark outside and was making a cup of tea in the kitchen. The kitchen has no curtains and I saw something with flashing red and green lights fly across my field of view. I thought it was a distant plane but then it stopped moving and began to descend vertically. It came down and disappeared behind a nearby tree, and I realized then it was not up in the sky but quite close by. It was completely silent and the only thing I can think it was is a drone. But what anyone would be flying a drone over the town at six in the morning for, I can't imagine.
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You should return your imagination and ask for a refund. Human imagination is usually much more powerful than that. I can imagine half a dozen reasons before I've even finished my morning coffee. Here's two, right off the top of my head:

The operator is flying home after trying out their new night vision camera.

The operator is hoping to film the rising of the crows from their communal roost.

Here's a third I just thought of:

The operator is planning to catch some dramatic panoramas of the sunrise illuminating the town by slow degrees.
 
theprestige said:
You should return your imagination and ask for a refund. Human imagination is usually much more powerful than that. I can imagine half a dozen reasons before I've even finished my morning coffee.
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This is actually a very important point in investigational methodology. "I can't imagine why someone would have done X," is a poor argument in favor for a conclusion, "No person did X; it must have an extraordinary cause." That's the cart before the horse.
 
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