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Windows 10 updates and reboots, even with updates turned off

Ron Obvious

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I'd been wondering why my server had been rebooting for a few weeks. For various reasons I don't need to go into, I don't want it to reboot when I'm not present right now. So I went into "advanced options", and paused updates for a couple of weeks and now only check for updates manually.

It still rebooted a few days ago, around the same time as my (W10) laptop did also, so I became suspicious but still suspected a bad power supply or something.

I just happened to be sitting at the monitor when I saw it installing updates anyway, even while the yellow paused button was visible on the same screen.

WTF, Microsoft? I know both Apple and Microsoft these days appear to regard the user as a retarded child who shouldn't be trusted with a computer in the first place, but really? I do know what I'm doing, you know.

Anyway, just a heads-up if you're in the same position.
 
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Welcome to Microsoft, where "My Computer" means Microsoft, not you.

I would look around on the web for free and open-source Windows 10/11 update blockers. I can't make any recommendations because I'm running Linux, primarily so I don't have to put up with this sort of nonsense.
 
Ron Obvious said:
I'd been wondering why my server had been rebooting for a few weeks. For various reasons I don't need to go into, I don't want it to reboot when I'm not present right now.
So I went into "advanced options", and paused updates for a couple of weeks and now only check for updates manually.
It still rebooted a few days ago, around the same time as my (W10) laptop did also, so I became suspicious but still suspected a bad power supply or something.

I just happened to be sitting at the monitor when I saw it installing updates anyway, even while the yellow paused button was visible on the same screen.

WTF, Microsoft? I know both Apple and Microsoft these days appear to regard the user as a retarded child who shouldn't be trusted with a computer in the first place, but really? I do know what I'm doing, you know.

Anyway, just a heads-up if you're in the same position.
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Not sure what you expected when you merely paused updates - they were obviously going to "unpause" at some time.

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How do I stop Windows 10 from updating automatically?​
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Navigate to “Computer Configuration” > “Administrative Templates” > “Windows Components” > “Windows Update.” Double-click on “Configure Automatic Updates” to open the settings. Select the “Disabled” option to turn off automatic updates. Click on “Apply” and then “OK” to save the changes.4 days ago"​
 
Blue Mountain said:
Welcome to Microsoft, where "My Computer" means Microsoft, not you.

I would look around on the web for free and open-source Windows 10/11 update blockers. I can't make any recommendations because I'm running Linux, primarily so I don't have to put up with this sort of nonsense.
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Yes, we know you run Linux. Everyone is aware. There is never a windows thread created that you don't take the opportunity to climb up on your horse and look down at every windows user and remind them of your Linux usage.

Anyway, if it's just a standalone server that you have full control over you could probably just disable the Windows Update service all together. It's kind of a roundabout way to do it but I had to do exactly that to get one of my home servers to stop updating while I was downloading...things. Then I would just turn it on when I wanted to do some updates.
 
plague311 said:
Pretty sure that's the one. It's been a hot minute since I did it. He seemed tech savvy enough so I figured he could track it down.
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Yeah I figured that and he does just wanted to clarify for others. As I've said before I know some really obscure stuff because I needed to dig to solve problems and also miss stuff that other people with more knowledge in that area assume is well known.
 
Ron Obvious said:
I'm guessing that's because you frequently check for updates manually. I do too, but this is on a server machine that I access when I'm away from home.
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Nope. When Windows has an update ready I get a little icon in the corner to let me know. If I click it, I get to apply the update now, or overnight, or schedule for a later date. At no time has it initiated without my telling it to.

ETA: some updates will quietly install in the background, and then when I select the Power option to shut down or sleep, I get options to apply updates and shut down, or apply updates and restart. My choice.

EATA: In case you're wondering, I'm running Windows 11 Pro version 24H2.
 
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Darat said:
Not sure what you expected when you merely paused updates - they were obviously going to "unpause" at some time.

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How do I stop Windows 10 from updating automatically?​
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Navigate to “Computer Configuration” > “Administrative Templates” > “Windows Components” > “Windows Update.” Double-click on “Configure Automatic Updates” to open the settings. Select the “Disabled” option to turn off automatic updates. Click on “Apply” and then “OK” to save the changes.4 days ago"​
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Yes, but not when I paused updates until March. I certainly didn't expect it to ram updates down my throat anyway when the updates were still paused, else what's the point of "pausing"?
 
plague311 said:
Yes, we know you run Linux. Everyone is aware. There is never a windows thread created that you don't take the opportunity to climb up on your horse and look down at every windows user and remind them of your Linux usage.
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I'm also pointing out there are alternatives to Windows—and all of Microsoft's shennigans—that about 80% of the computer users out there can use, as long as they aren't into playing computer games. And I also don't like that way too many are drinking the Microsoft kool-aid.

Microsoft is a crappy company pushing a crappy product. I'm bewildered that so, so many people insist on using it.
 
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Blue Mountain said:
And I also don't like that way too many are drinking the Microsoft kool-aid.
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It's not "drinking the kool-aid" most people just don't care, they go out and buy computer and it does what they want then they stop thinking about it.
Other times people may have looked into it and found Linux to be overly complex with an, at best, condescending attitude towards helping newcomers, even something as simple as "Which one?" (and I'm not asking) normally leads to both distro bickering or cries of "Do your own research".
Or maybe people have looked into it and Linux doesn't do what they want, how they want to do it;

 
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Mongrel said:
It's not "drinking the kool-aid" most people just don't care, they go out and buy computer and it does what they want then they stop thinking about it.
Other times people may have looked into it and found Linux to be overly complex with an, at best, condescending attitude towards helping newcomers, even something as simple as "Which one?" (and I'm not asking) normally leads to both distro bickering or cries of "Do your own research".
Or maybe people have looked into it and Linux doesn't do what they want, how they want to do it;
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Darat said:
Not just games.
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Thanks for the replies.

I want to apologize to the posters in this thread for the derail. The next time a thread about Windows pops up, I'll resist the urge to post something about Linux.
 
It's funny. I've been in IT all my life. I've never found Windows to be especially onerous to work with. Windows, Mac, Linux... horses for courses, it's all the same to me.

Microsoft has a lot of good "it just works" solutions for larger enterprises and the people who work there. Including the Windows OS. Developing a personal animus towards the product line just seems counter-productive to me. I use Windows at home, and it just works. Win11 has been painless for me. I use Mac for work, and it just works. I use Linux for enterprise computation, and it just works.
 
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