Project 2025

The main problem with the whole idea is that Trump and his minions think the deported people will be accepted by another country. Those countries are under no obligation to take them.
 
I hope not, but with today's political climate, it is very hard to know. The guard rails of democracy have weakened and I'm not sure they can withstand the onslaught of fascism supported by The Party.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Conflict? How about orders to defy the constitution they gave an oath to support?
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And of course there is nothing about proper treatment of detainees that they are under obligation to do, so torture away.

It really is not that hard people obey orders. Look at the documentary Ordinary Men about how it took very little pressure and no real consequences for refusing to turn a group of ordinary men into Einsatzgruppen. IF it is that easy to get the government to turn people recently drafted to be police of occupied territory into mass murderers why should we expect our military to be different?
 
Exactly. Also, congressmen, the POTUS and all upper level fed officials swear an oath to protect the constitution and you see how well that's working.
 
Resume said:
That's kinda weak. Trump has already sold the idea of a Biden Migrant Invasion; I'm confident that this roundup will be seen by his cultists, both in the military and not, as legitimate response to a existential threat to the U.S. And they will sell it to the non-cultist Trump voters. We will see in very short order, and I sincerely hope that I am wrong and you are correct.
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So you have totally lost faith in the American People. I think the graphics of the roundups will be horrible, and change many people'sminds.
Yop know, suspect your real anger with the American people is they are not as far to the left as ypu would like..and that goes a long way before Trump.
 
i didn't say democracy is a failure. i voted for it. enough of the american people chose the other option that we're dealing with that instead. so i'll ask again, what's so special about them?
 
dudalb said:
So you have totally lost faith in the American People.
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No, I don't trust the plurality of cultist voters, nor the idiot they elected, nor the supplicating sycophants that idiot will doubtlessly surround himself with.
dudalb said:
I think the graphics of the roundups will be horrible, and change many people'sminds.
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I think you're wrong.
dudalb said:
Yop know, suspect your real anger with the American people is they are not as far to the left as ypu would like..and that goes a long way before Trump.
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Nope. In the real world, I'm center right. I am an independent that has crossed both party lines, and a number of times have written myself in for POTUS and governorship of my state when I thought all the candidates were ◊◊◊◊. I voted against Trump the last three elections not so much in allignment with the Dems, but horrified at the idea of that idiot anywhere near the resolute desk.
 
Resume said:
No, I don't trust the plurality of cultist voters, nor the idiot they elected, nor the supplicating sycophants that idiot will doubtlessly surround himself with.

I think you're wrong.

Nope. In the real world, I'm center right. I am an independent that has crossed both party lines, and a number of times have written myself in for POTUS and governorship of my state when I thought all the candidates were ◊◊◊◊. I voted against Trump the last three elections not so much in allignment with the Dems, but horrified at the idea of that idiot anywhere near the resolute desk.
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Ypu think everybody who voted for Trump is a cultest. Everything I have read indicated otherwise.
You have no idea how bad the chaos is going to be.When it hits therie pocketbooks, andit will, people will pay attention.
 
dudalb said:
Ypu think everybody who voted for Trump is a cultest. Everything I have read indicated otherwise.
You have no idea how bad the chaos is going to be. When it hits their pocketbooks, and it will, people will pay attention.
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And then what will they do? They won't blame Trumpy because they voted for him. So they will blame who they are told was the cause - the Democrats who tried to warn and help them. Because they are all good little drones, unlike their ancestors 250 years ago who stood up to their leaders.
 
dudalb said:
So you have totally lost faith in the American People. I think the graphics of the roundups will be horrible, and change many people'sminds.
Yop know, suspect your real anger with the American people is they are not as far to the left as ypu would like..and that goes a long way before Trump.
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If he said a civil war would break out among Americans would that be better and less cynical for you?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Wanna bet that Miller will go to some lengths to make sure that deported family members end up in different countries?
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Well, the UK government declared Rwanda to be a safe country to deport all their “illegals” to, so nothing the Trump administration could be a surprise to anyone.
 
dudalb said:
Ypu think everybody who voted for Trump is a cultest. Everything I have read indicated otherwise.
You have no idea how bad the chaos is going to be.When it hits therie pocketbooks, andit will, people will pay attention.
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They were either cultists or ignorant that they were voting a cult to become the most powerful force in government.
 
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