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The behaviour of US police officers

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The absolute dogmatism I ma seeing in this thread from supposed "Critical THinkers" is disturbing.
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
It means he hit or slapped the guy punched the kid in the face multiple times.
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FTFY

Surprisingly, punching someone repeatedly in the face is known to reduce resistance, because they forget about resisting and concentrate on trying to protect themselves from further strikes.
 
Bob001 said:
In departments where single-officer patrols are the standard, it would mean hiring twice as many cops, or cutting the number of patrol units in half. Your locality has made the decision that that's how they want to operate. Others might not have the same budget, or might want more units on the street. It's hardly just a matter of adjusting schedules.
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My locality has made the decision? Where I come from "localities" are not a factor.

Hire twice as many or cut in half - whatever it takes.

Make it a national budget and get rid of the unions or reign them the **** in. I could come over to the US and sort this out in a max of 6 months with presidential support......... if I survived that long.
 
One reason for doubling up in Scotland is to do with corroboration of statements and evidence.
Law is different in the UK and some areas have single patrols but doubling is more usual.
 
The Atheist said:
FTFY

Surprisingly, punching someone repeatedly in the face is known to reduce resistance, because they forget about resisting and concentrate on trying to protect themselves from further strikes.
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In the US any attempts to protect oneself from a police attack is counted as “resistance.”
 
The Atheist said:
FTFY

Surprisingly, punching someone repeatedly in the face is known to reduce resistance, because they forget about resisting and concentrate on trying to protect themselves from further strikes.
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I hate the FTFY modifications to people's quotes, but, yes, "distracting strikes" is a euphemism for slapping and punching people, usually a lot of punches to the face.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
One reason for doubling up in Scotland is to do with corroboration of statements and evidence.
Law is different in the UK and some areas have single patrols but doubling is more usual.
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Police around here are generally one to a car but will deal with stops after a second car arrives on scene. Depending on the amount of police on duty and size of the patrol, that seems like a decent angle to take to increase cover and minimize risk.
 
theprestige said:
autumn1971 said:
In the US any attempts to protect oneself from a police attack is counted as “resistance.”
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Pretty sure that's true everywhere, and by definition.

Is it not true in your jurisdiction?
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Probably. But 'resistance' to what?

Raising your hands to keep from being repeatedly punched in the face is, as you so cogently pointed out, 'resistance' ... by definition. But is it necessarily anything more than resistance to being repeatedly punched in the face.

Because what all too commonly happens is that it is somehow morphed into "resisting arrest". Cops beat on you, and when you try to protect yourself you're "resisting". Even though the only thing you are resisting is being beaten up, not anything else.

See how that works? Instant charges conveniently available.

Unless you are lucky enough to have some sort of video record being taken then you are basically SOL, because it becomes the cop's word against yours ... and we all know how that usually works out in court.
 
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Matthew Best said:
I believe you may be talking about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE_uUp8nbVg
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No, apparently there are so many of them I'm still looking for the one I had in mind. It's hard to find Youtube videos going back very far. I might find it if I look elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt8vPcCiAys
Guy has a screwdriver, it wasn't even a knife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7w3TSx73qc
This guy wanted to die, the cops obliged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygbOLb0O7Pw
This guy wouldn't stop running away, he turned toward the officers and was shot.


The one I was was describing it was broad daylight, the man with the knife wasn't moving anywhere, there were multiple cops around who did not feel the need to shoot the man, and this one cop discharged his weapon. He almost looked like it was accidental but he claimed it was justified. I can't find it.

Then there was the mentally disabled man playing with a toy car in the street and his case worker was sitting next to him begging the police not to shoot. They shot anyway.

And what do these cases have in common? Cops don't care why you aren't doing what they say, if you don't they'll just shoot you, no qualms about it.
 
quadraginta said:
... and hit the case worker.

To be fair, it was in Florida. So I guess that's about par for the course.
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I don't recall they hit the case worker, but it doesn't surprise me. I was so outraged by them killing the disabled man playing with a toy truck that is burned in my memory as other details fade.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I don't recall they hit the case worker, but it doesn't surprise me. I was so outraged by them killing the disabled man playing with a toy truck that is burned in my memory as other details fade.
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My apologies. I must have been thinking of a different case.

I was thinking of this one.


Cop shoots caretaker of autistic man playing in the street with toy truck​

But the caretaker wasn't sitting. He was lying down on the pavement with his hands in the air.



It was the autistic man he was trying to protect who was sitting. And he was not killed. In fact, he was unharmed. Even though the cop who shot the caretaker fired three rounds.
 
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Shame what happened in Ohio is detracting from what is going o in North Carolina, which, IMHO< is much more outrageous conduct by the police.
Graranteed, 90% dod the time a agency draes it feet on releasing information, it's part of an attemped cover up.
 
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