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Bobby Menard plays lawyer again. . .

Assuming he needs to keep the grift going, he can dine out on this one for years:

Still programming.
Someone quit, took the code. (we are suing)
We've got a closed beta.
We've submitted it to the App store. (pre-order now!)
App store refused; appealing.
Appeal denied. (we are suing)
Resubmitted. Rinse and repeat.

You're assuming he ever gets that far. It'll be much easier to pretend the app exists and then make up crap about the app store refusing it, all the while never showing proof.
Why do the work if you are a grifter who really doesn't think too far ahead?
 
Menard's problem is the when a few bucks roll in he gets full of Moose Heads and gets careless about who he grifts.

Back in the early 2000's he was really careless and conned clients who hadn't drank the Kool-Aide later complained. He even tried to sell his legal services to a private investigator who was working for the Law Society and had called him out of the blue. See: http://www.internationalskeptics.co...ight=Menard+Private+Investigator#post13210220

His Canadian Association of Consumer Purchases (ACCP) scan got outed when one of the prospective marks got wise and posted all the communications from the ACCP private Facebook group.

Since then he's had to spent a great deal of time screening his marks so he does take a
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in his own mess kit again.

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Canada Fraud Protection

https://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/04339.html
 
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You're assuming he ever gets that far. It'll be much easier to pretend the app exists and then make up crap about the app store refusing it, all the while never showing proof.
Why do the work if you are a grifter who really doesn't think too far ahead?

I was unclear, those can be enough excuses to keep the grift going without ever having to show a single line of code.

You can even have a few go fund me for some of those stages. Lawsuits are expensive, send money.

Toss in a few "we lost the password" or "computer crashes" and you can extend the grift for any number of years. A few fake accounts to post how well the beta app works, honestly it's very little work to keep the balls in the air.
 
I was unclear, those can be enough excuses to keep the grift going without ever having to show a single line of code.

You can even have a few go fund me for some of those stages. Lawsuits are expensive, send money.

Toss in a few "we lost the password" or "computer crashes" and you can extend the grift for any number of years. A few fake accounts to post how well the beta app works, honestly it's very little work to keep the balls in the air.

You just gave Bobby a game plan. :D

The last gofundme was a disaster though. I almost donated because I felt bad for him. Almost. I might have had he not sent me email after email about Real3D games through LinkedIn.
Bobby must be getting close to 65 and CPP (Canada Pension Plan). I wonder if he'll refuse to take it. I hope so because that'll be more for me.

So Bobby is reduced to shilling crap again and me, a hard worker and saver my whole life owns a house outright, no debt at all, raised 4 kids that were definitely mine, until this year went on cruises all over the world and I can visit the USA whenever I want except for the pandemic now. Who has done better? Who has never taken money without earning it? I feel sorry when the day comes he won't be able to sweet talk people into supporting him. It'll be a rude awakening.
 
Bobby must be getting close to 65 and CPP (Canada Pension Plan). I wonder if he'll refuse to take it. I hope so because that'll be more for me.



Oh come on, you know the answer to that. Fiat money is fake, valueless, utterly worthless, ties you to perpetual slavery, and is fake, right up until it ends up in the Freeman's wallet.
 
Oh come on, you know the answer to that. Fiat money is fake, valueless, utterly worthless, ties you to perpetual slavery, and is fake, right up until it ends up in the Freeman's wallet.

You're right. I was hangry and now that lunch is over, I feel more better. :D Funny enough, the delivery guy took fiat money. Amazing.
 
You just gave Bobby a game plan. :D

The last gofundme was a disaster though. I almost donated because I felt bad for him. Almost. I might have had he not sent me email after email about Real3D games through LinkedIn.
Bobby must be getting close to 65 and CPP (Canada Pension Plan). I wonder if he'll refuse to take it. I hope so because that'll be more for me.

So Bobby is reduced to shilling crap again and me, a hard worker and saver my whole life owns a house outright, no debt at all, raised 4 kids that were definitely mine, until this year went on cruises all over the world and I can visit the USA whenever I want except for the pandemic now. Who has done better? Who has never taken money without earning it? I feel sorry when the day comes he won't be able to sweet talk people into supporting him. It'll be a rude awakening.

But if he does follow it, then I laid it out first, so anyone who somehow thinks he is on the level, might reconsider. Then again, if they haven't figured him out by now, there just might not be any hope.
 
What Leftus described has always been Bobby's game plan.

Bobby's got lame excuses and lies in his hip pocket we haven't even begun to contemplate.
 
What Leftus described has always been Bobby's game plan.

Bobby's got lame excuses and lies in his hip pocket we haven't even begun to contemplate.

Now that sounds like a challenge.

The overriding lie is the implied promise made by Menard that he is going to see any project or product through to completion.

In the end investors and early adopters get nothing for their money. Not unless you count having a load of freeman BS repeated back to you as something.
 
The overriding lie is the implied promise made by Menard that he is going to see any project or product through to completion.

In the end investors and early adopters get nothing for their money. Not unless you count having a load of freeman BS repeated back to you as something.

A friend of mine in Edmonton almost fell for the Freeman Valley scam. He and his family are outdoorsy types who at the time wanted their own place in the country. I had him Google Bobby and he did use his common sense and passed. They do have their own acreage in Edson now and it's nice. Too remote for me as I am a city boy but a nice place to visit.
Bobby preys on the weak and desperate only.
 
Bobby writes another letter! See the bolded sections.

As usual Bobby claims the law doesn't apply to him and he indends to represent Lisa Chamberlain in court. Too bad for him the Law Society is already on to him.

Friday, December 11, 2020
Dear Andrew Kinley
I would like to start by apologizing for the tone of my last letter. On rereading it I found it a little ‘pokey’ and felt perhaps I had expressed myself without respect to the dignity you deserve. If my words caused you to feel I denied you dignity, I sincerely apologize and promise to endeavour to do better in the future. I think I probably felt dishonoured myself, and that is why I had my hackles up, so to speak.

I have a little bit of experience in helping resolve conflicts, and have found that just about all conflicts are a result of one party feeling they have been denied dignity they felt was due. We will call them the first party. Often the second party has no idea the first party felt a denial of dignity. They (the first party) will then respond aggressively to the second party, and being unaware of the denial of dignity felt by the first party, the second party will feel they were the first denied dignity. Now suddenly we have two parties in conflict, both feeling the other initiated the conflict by denying due dignity. I guess I felt I was denied due dignity, for no other reason than I am not a member of the Law Society.
I have also found that most conflicts can begin to find resolution the moment either party sees there is at least an attempt to provide the previously expected due dignity.

You mentioned in previous correspondence that the Law Society Act restricted Lisa from employing me to act as her agent. You also expressed that you would if necessary inform the appropriate authorities of my actions. I took that as a threat. I do not like threats very much, if at all, and am instinctively inclined to deal with them immediately. Towards that end I have crafted a letter for these ‘authorities’ and intend to send them all a copy concerning this issue. I would like to know exactly which authorities you would have felt comfortable reporting me to, so I can be sure to include them. So far I have identified as possible authorities who would be interested in this issue as the Premier of the Province, The Chief Justice of New Brunswick, The President and Executive Director of the Law Society of New Brunswick, The Chief Crown Prosecutor, The Attorney General of New Brunswick, all manner of journalist and radio broadcasters, and the public generally. If you have any other ‘authorities’ you would like to be informed of my actions, please let me know as soon as possible. I will inform them myself of my actions, and my reasons for acting.

Last night I was awoken by an epiphany, and decide to look up on Canlii the Law Society Act to which you had previously referred, to see if I was correct in my beliefs. I could not find an Act titled that anywhere. Imagine my surprise when I finally found the Act to which you had referred and found it was actually titled ‘An Act Respecting The Law Society Of New Brunswick”. My epiphany was that this Act was not generally applicable to those who are not members of the Law Society. What if this Act was what we the public could use to restrict the Law Society, and not designed to be used by the Law Society to control the public? And here I find evidence of that right in the title. Just to be sure we are on the same page, the term ‘respecting’ means ‘in regard to’, or ‘concerning’. It caused me to ask a question: what if this Act is only applicable to members of the Law Society, and is not generally applicable to the general public, and neither you nor anyone else has the right to point to it to stop one member of the public from acting as a lawful agent for another member of the public, either in court or out? What if its applicability is quite limited to the Law Society itself? After all, we find evidence supporting that position right in the title of the Act!

I then looked at the section dealing with the object (or purposes) of the Society covered by that Act, and found the following.

The stated object and duty of the Society are as follows:
to uphold and protect the public interest in the administration of justice
to preserve and maintain the rights of all persons
to ensure the independence, integrity and honour of its members
to establish standards for the education, professional responsibility and competence of its members and applicants for membership,
to regulate the legal profession, and,
subject to paragraphs (a) to (d) to uphold and protect the interests of its members

In the absence of this Act, no one would have anything to which they could point to claim that Lisa could not employ me to act as her agent, or to do any of the things which you claim constitute practicing law. Those would be considered rights. Certainly this Act does not restrict the ‘upholding and protecting of the public interest in the administration of justice’ to the exclusive domain of the Law Society. Nor can that Society claim that they and only they can act to preserve and maintain the rights of all persons. That would be a ludicrous position.

Thus, when interpreting this Act and seeking to determine whether it can be used to stop a member of the public from acting as an agent for another member of the public, the title itself tells us that this Act is not in regards to them at all, but is only respecting the Law Society of New Brunswick. It is not (going by the title) applicable to those who are not members of that Society. It certainly is not designed to allow the Law Society to remove our rights.

Realize that in the absence of that Act, there would be nothing anyone could point to which would justify removing Lisa’s right to have me act as her agent. Since the right to choose anyone to act as an agent, champion, advocate or counsellor existed prior to this Act, and this Act cannot be used to remove existing rights, the only way to properly interpret this Act is to do so without denying her the right to choose me as an agent. Your interpretation removes her rights, and thus offends one of the stated objects of the Society itself.

That brings me to the term ‘uphold and protect the public interest in the administration of justice’. Clearly, out of all the available definitions of the word ‘interest’ the one we are dealing with here is ‘a stake, share or involvement in an undertaking’. We have a stake in the administration of justice, and no interpretation of this Act can allow for a diminishment of that stake.
Your interpretation does not maintain and preserve the rights of all persons, but erodes and denies certain key ones. Your interpretation does not uphold and protect the public interest in the administration of justice, but claims a monopoly on upholding and protecting that interest.

Now the questions become who is right and how do we determine the correct interpretation? The idea of using the existing courts which are seemingly hijacked by the Law Society, and manned with judges all of whom were once and possible future members of the Law Society will not allow justice to be seen to be done. The reasonable apprehension of bias is simply too large.

Luckily the law is all about remedy and I see a path that will allow that to be accomplished. We can determine this by convening a grand jury, operated by the public themselves. Their interest and stake in the administration of justice certainly justifies this action. Therein I will argue my position, and the Law Society can argue theirs. If their interpretation is superior, I trust that grand jury to find in their favour and will accept that ruling. I wonder if the Law Society will agree to that? If not it really does not matter, for the question will be ‘will a judge accept that finding?’ Personally, I think any judge who refuses to do so is on a fast track to retirement for it will completely erode the publics faith and confidence in the justice system and the administration of justice.

It is my intention to represent Lisa in court, and I believe quite strongly she has the right to have me do so if she so wishes. I strongly believe the Act titled “An Act Respecting the Law Society of New Brunswick” is an Act respecting only the Law Society of New Brunswick, and does not remove her previously existing rights, and I am compelled to act by the need to preserve and maintain her rights.

You should be aware of a few things. I hope I do not come off as pokey or arrogant, but I know a little about conflict and its resolution. (After all, I grew up with six sisters and served in the army as an Infantry soldier.) And when I am engaged to act for someone as I am with Lisa, it is not for money. It is because I am usually their last resort, and with no one else to turn to, their pleas awaken my detest for bullying, abuse of authority and general injustice, and I become driven by my faith. Would you like to know what she told me, with a near tearful voice which broke my heart? She asked me if I can’t just get them to treat her fairly. That is all she has ever wanted. To be treated fairly. And her disability (she is on the spectrum) which manifests as a severe distrust of and opposition to authority, is often seen as an attack by those with a mandate to exercise authority and used by them to justify abusing their authority to ‘teach her a lesson about who is in charge’ which just increases her level fo distrust. Her expressing that distrust is often viewed by those with authority as ‘aggression’.''
It is unfortunate that you could not have simply treated me with the respect and dignity you would have afforded a member of your Law Society. I think we may have gotten along, and when you had all the facts, you would have helped find a resolution to this issue, without needing to beat up Lisa on behalf of your client. I think they both would have benefited. But now I have to go rein in the Law Society, and then get back to you within an adversarial relationship. It truly is unfortunate when all we really had to do was communicate with respect, and you simply refused to do so.

If this issue ends up going to court, the first step will be a demand for a voir dire, to determine her right to appoint an agent or attorney of her choosing. Part of the evidence presented will be the finding of a grand jury.

In closing, please provide me with the names, addresses and roles of any ‘authorities’ you would have reported me to, assuming they are not already mentioned.

Sincerely and without malice aforethought, ill will, vexation or frivolity,
I AM
Robert Artur Menard
Acting as Agent for Lisa Chamberlain,
to preserve and maintain her rights.
 
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Bobby writes another letter! See the bolded sections.

As usual Bobby claims the law doesn't apply to him and he indends to represent Lisa Chamberlain in court. Too bad for him the Law Society is already on to him.

Wow. He uses legal words such as voir dire, but in a context that is foreign to me. Here in the lower 48, the voir dire is questions asked of a jury, but after a quick google it's used differently in America's Hat. He still seems to be using it incorrectly, and another search on a grand jury has a few issues. Grand Juries in Canada aren't legally recognized, and were abolished in 1984. The Canada Grand Jury is, hold your hats, Freeman nonsense. So he is going to introduce freeman nonsense in a real court, telling them what the laws is and how they aren't the boss of him, which always goes well.

Edit - He misspelled his own middle name. Such attention to detail.
 
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Bobby’s client, Lisa Chamberlain, is a dog breeder in Bathurst, New Brunswick with a bad reputation. She had legal troubles in 2016 involving her selling puppies with the parvovirus. As near as I can tell the case was dismissed when she cleaned up her operation. She goes by different names like Lisa Chiasson and Tanya White.

Facebook is full of complaints, many recent, about her breeding service.. . .not returning calls, failing to deliver paid for puppies and selling sick and/or aggressive puppies. My guess is that the public health authorities have lost patience with her.

I strongly suspect that Bobby has secretly continued in the “legal advice” business for years. I think he’s been preying on people having problems with provincial and local governments over things like building codes, business regulations, public health rules and the like.

Bobby knows the various Law Societies in Canada are aware of the 2008 ordering him to stop playing lawyer so he rarely makes his activities public. Why he did so this time is a mystery. He knows full well he’s going to get turned in if he goes public.

It's possible Lisa Chamberlain really thought she had a gem in Bobby and foolishly threw his name at the public health authorities in the hopes they’d back off.
 
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Wow. He uses legal words such as voir dire, but in a context that is foreign to me. Here in the lower 48, the voir dire is questions asked of a jury, but after a quick google it's used differently in America's Hat. He still seems to be using it incorrectly, and another search on a grand jury has a few issues. Grand Juries in Canada aren't legally recognized, and were abolished in 1984. The Canada Grand Jury is, hold your hats, Freeman nonsense. So he is going to introduce freeman nonsense in a real court, telling them what the laws is and how they aren't the boss of him, which always goes well.

Edit - He misspelled his own middle name. Such attention to detail.

Using legal terms makes the marks think they are getting a good deal.
 
Bobby writes another letter! See the bolded sections.

As usual Bobby claims the law doesn't apply to him and he indends to represent Lisa Chamberlain in court. Too bad for him the Law Society is already on to him.



I'm sure the Canadian courts will be very impressed with his argument that the Act doesn't prevent him from acting as a lawyer. :rolleyes:
 
Huh. My brother in law who retired as an assistant AG here in Ontario had a good laugh at his request (threat?) of voir dire. It'll get tossed as will Bobby. The court will not recognize his definitions of legal terms just because.
Bobby is the one person I can think of with more fail than Trump in court. I wonder how much fail costs in Bobby's fee schedule.
My BIL started out as a prosecutor in Nova Scotia too in the early 80s.
 
When Bobby got busted for playing lawyer in 2008 he made it easy by misrepresenting himself and his abilities to a private investigator working for the law society.

This time Bobby is making it even easier by admitting in writiting what he's doing.

How many Moose Heads does it take to get that stupid?
 
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