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Hermain Cain dies after month long battle with COVID-19

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Distracted1 said:
He was black.
He was a "bad" man.
He is prematurely dead.
You (amongst others) are celebrating that fact.

That is, and has been consistently enough evidence on this forum to insinuate (or claim outright) racism on your part,
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I never said Cain was a "bad" man.
I never said he was black.
I never said he was prematurely dead.
I am also not "celebrating" his death.
I also don't see others celebrating.

It is you that is suggesting all this.

Cain died because of the COVID virus. That is unfortunate for him and his family.

But it is not wrong or an exaggeration to say that Cain may be alive today had he not followed Trump.
 
Distracted1 said:
He was black.
He was a "bad" man.
He is prematurely dead.
You (amongst others) are celebrating that fact.

That is, and has been consistently enough evidence on this forum to insinuate (or claim outright) racism on your part,
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Cain was stupid. Now he's ten toes up.

I'll say the same about anyone similarly stupid. White, brown, black, red, yellow, green or grey.

I'm an equal opportunity pisser on graves.
 
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Lurch said:
Cain was stupid. Now he's ten toes up.

I'll say the same about anyone similarly stupid. White, brown, black, red, yellow, green or grey.

I'm an equal opportunity pisser on graves.
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I'm not big on celebrating the misfortunes of others.

But that doesn't mean I can't notice that some people are actively competing for a Darwin Award.
 
acbytesla said:
I'm not big on celebrating the misfortunes of others.

But that doesn't mean I can't notice that some people are actively competing for a Darwin Award.
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Cain isn't just some random conservative schmuck that died from covid because they took advice from Fox News.

He's a (minor) leader in the movement. He played a role in advocating for this death cult of an ideology. His death by Covid may, in-fact, play a small role in waking up duped conservatives to the danger of the course of action conservative propaganda is advocating.

This isn't just misfortune, this is an arsonist getting consumed by the same fire he started. It's a good outcome.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Cain isn't just some random conservative schmuck that died from covid because they took advice from Fox News.

He's a (minor) leader in the movement. He played a role in advocating for this death cult of an ideology. His death by Covid may, in-fact, play a small role in waking up duped conservatives to the danger of the course of action conservative propaganda is advocating.

This isn't just misfortune, this is an arsonist getting consumed by the same fire he started. It's a good outcome.
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Exactly. Even my empathy for the family is attenuated by the fact that if my father or grandfather with similar risk factors acted the same way, I wouldn't stop pressuring him to take every precaution. In fact, I would advise him daily not to leave the house for any reason apart from required medical care.
 
acbytesla said:
I'm not big on celebrating the misfortunes of others.

But that doesn't mean I can't notice that some people are actively competing for a Darwin Award.
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I’m not sure if failure to use a mask should qualify for a Darwin Award. The mask isn’t intended to protect the wearer, so someone refusing to wear on then dyeing from COVID-19 is more of a “got what they deserved” thing than a “done in by their own stupidity” thing.
 
So much for Trump's claims that children (the younger the better) are practically immune to and not spreaders of Covid 19.

In June, a Georgia summer camp had to shut on after children and staff tested positive for the virus. All had arrived at the camp with recent negative test proof. Only the staffers, not the children, wore masks and increased ventilation was not followed. Within a week, a staffer became sick and half the camp attendees were tested again. The positive test percentages:

Ages 6-10: 51% Ages 11-17: 44% Ages 18-21: 33%

Source: CNN
 
acbytesla said:
But it is not wrong or an exaggeration to say that Cain may be alive today had he not followed Trump.
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It most certainly is. Wearing a mask does not, in any way, protect you from contracting the virus. While I will accept that wearing a mask would have made it more socially acceptable for whoever spread it to wear his or her mask, he could have still caught it following all of the current guidance.

If he only had a meal with his beer, that might have made a difference (CA). Or not drinking after 11 PM, that might have helped (OH).
 
Leftus said:
It most certainly is. Wearing a mask does not, in any way, protect you from contracting the virus. While I will accept that wearing a mask would have made it more socially acceptable for whoever spread it to wear his or her mask, he could have still caught it following all of the current guidance.

If he only had a meal with his beer, that might have made a difference (CA). Or not drinking after 11 PM, that might have helped (OH).
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Attending in indoors rally of thousands of people was a massive violation of any reasonable precautions. Even if you accept that masks are not effective (which isn't true), good social distancing protocols means not attending an indoors political rally. Everyone who made the decision to attend that rally is grossly irresponsible.

Im sure Cain isn't the only person who became infected and died because of that rally, but he's the only one high profile enough to notice.
 
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Leftus said:
It most certainly is. Wearing a mask does not, in any way, protect you from contracting the virus. While I will accept that wearing a mask would have made it more socially acceptable for whoever spread it to wear his or her mask, he could have still caught it following all of the current guidance.
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Given that the current guidance would have included social distancing, mask usage, and not attending political rallies (or any other large gathering, especially where people aren't observing other precautions), I think your speculation is unwarranted. It's clear that he followed none of the "current guidance." He certainly didn't follow the guidance of local Tulsa officials (the mayor) who indicated that the rally he attended should be cancelled.

In fact, given his specific risk factors, I'd bet cash money that the "current guidance" from Cain's doctors would have been to stay the **** in his house.
 
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An overly-litigious family member should do contact tracing, figure out how he got it, and then maybe sue the whole chain of command that pulled the social distancing stickers off of the seats in the arena.

ETA - those stickers were part of the "current guidance."
 
lomiller said:
I’m not sure if failure to use a mask should qualify for a Darwin Award. The mask isn’t intended to protect the wearer, so someone refusing to wear on then dyeing from COVID-19 is more of a “got what they deserved” thing than a “done in by their own stupidity” thing.
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Failure, maybe not. Deliberately not and flouting the known science on the other hand.

You are right. The mask does a better job at protecting others than the wearer. Still, Cain attended the Tulsa rally where he knew masks wouldn't be worn. So Cain being in a high risk group placed himself in an environment that was risky. Did he not?
 
acbytesla said:
Failure, maybe not. Deliberately not and flouting the known science on the other hand.

You are right. The mask does a better job at protecting others than the wearer. Still, Cain attended the Tulsa rally where he knew masks wouldn't be worn. So Cain being in a high risk group placed himself in an environment that was risky. Did he not?
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And clearly he received the Award.
 
Herman's Been Cained

My suggestion for an alternative thread title.
 
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