Judge's son gunned down, hitman found dead in car

[Vixen]

If any developing story had 'conspiracy' written all over it, it has to be the gunning down of Judge Salas' son. Salas had just been appointed five days ago as the judge to preside over the Deutsche Bank money laundering case.

Strong connections to Epstein as one of the charges is allegedly their allowing him to launder his ill-gotten gains there.

The person suspected of shooting the husband and son of US District Court of New Jersey Esther Salas on Sunday at her North Brunswick home has died of what is believed to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to two law enforcement sources.

Daniel Anderl, a 20-year-old student at Catholic University, was killed in the shooting, and Mark Anderl, the judge's husband and a defense attorney, was injured, according to Chief Judge Freda Wolfson. Salas was unharmed, Wolfson said.

So the 'hitman' wearing a Fedex uniform and delivering a 'Fedex parcel' turned out to be a 'disgruntled attorney' who had lost a case under Salas five years ago. He was found shot dead in a car in New York Catskill not long after.

It is strange an attorney would hold a grudge about losing a case, usually it is a resentful litigant or defendant who feels unjustly treated or made to pay unfair costs. The lawyer gets his or her money in any case. And waiting five years.

So it has all the hallmarks of a Lee Oswald type assassination with the hitman being bumped off by another hitman. 'A secret between two people is safe if one is dead'.

Epstein's hand waves out of the grave...?



ETA: the gunman found dead in the car is allegedly Roy Den Hollander and his resumé looks like this:

RESUME
Anti-Feminist litigation, investigations, and advice on general corporate matters.
M.B.A. Columbia University Business School with Honors, J.D. George Washington University Law School with High Honors.

WORK EXPERIENCE
Attorney and Business Consultant, New York, N.Y., 2000-Present
Litigate civil cases, including men's rights, immigration fraud, insurance subrogation, and RICO.
Advise businesses on corporate governance, contracts and litigation.

Kroll Associates Russia, Moscow, Russia, 1999-2000
Managed and upgraded Kroll’s delivery of intelligence and security in the former Soviet Union.
Attorney, New York, N.Y., Russia, Ecuador, 1990-1999
Counseled companies, individuals, and nonprofit organizations in America, Russia, and Ecuador on legal and
business issues, including international financing and marketing.<snip>

Spot the Russia connection.

 

[pgwenthold]

I believe he was an attorney representing himself. But maybe not in that case.

Regardless, long story short, the guy was an incel XXXX sorry, "men's rights activist."

He had previously filed a discrimination lawsuit against "Ladies' nights" in bars.

When he lost that, he threatened to "pull a [someone]", where, I don't remember the exact name, but [someone] had attacked a courtroom with an axe.

As far as I know, there is no reason to think there is any connection with the Deustche Bank case. He had a vendetta against the judge already.

 

[Vixen]

I believe he was an attorney representing himself. But maybe not in that case.

Regardless, long story short, the guy was an incel XXXX sorry, "men's rights activist."

He had previously filed a discrimination lawsuit against "Ladies' nights" in bars.

When he lost that, he threatened to "pull a [someone]", where, I don't remember the exact name, but [someone] had attacked a courtroom with an axe.

As far as I know, there is no reason to think there is any connection with the Deustche Bank case. He had a vendetta against the judge already.

Seems quite random to just fire at whoever answers the door. That has hitman all over it, as mafia types target family.

The Mens Rights Activism case can be seen here:

Yesterday, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Manhattan Federal Judge Miriam Cedarbaum’s decision that ladies’ nights are a legal part of New York’s nightlife. The judges dismissed a complaint by Roy Den Hollander, the lawyer and plaintiff who claimed that New York clubs, Copacabana, China Club, A.E.R., Lotus, and Sol discriminate against men when they lower drink prices and door charges for ladies.Turns out, Hollender is a “Men’s Rights Advocate” with a history of fighting for the rights of the “oft-maligned” modern man. We caught up with him to find out more.

In 2008, Hollander — who, according to his website has a law degree from George Washington University and a business degree from Columbia — claimed that Columbia University’s Institute for Research on Women and Gender is discriminatory because there is no equivalent program for men’s studies. A judge dismissed the case. He also filed a complaint claiming that the Violence Against Women Act, which allows immigrant women who were abused by their spouses to obtain citizenship, is unconstitutional. A judge dismissed the case. [His ex-wife, a Russian citizen, once used the Violence Against Women Act against him. He writes on his website that the act grants citizenship to women “falsely accusing their American husbands,” and he told us that on top of it all, he didn’t know that his wife was actually a “Russian mafia prostitute.”]

Despite the latest dismissal, Hollander’s highly personal mission to end ladies’ nights isn’t over. “I thought it was going to be a sure win,” he says.

Unbalanced or primed by an agent?

 

[JoeMorgue]

As far as I know, there is no reason to think there is any connection with the Deustche Bank case. He had a vendetta against the judge already.

That's something I think the more... ahem... conspiratorial among us often forget, that people involved in "big events" are usually also involved in a lot of small ones.

 

[Belz...]

So it has all the hallmarks of a Lee Oswald type assassination with the hitman being bumped off by another hitman.

You mean, it has all the hallmarks of a fantasy version of Lee Oswald?

 

[theprestige]

Unbalanced. Mafia tropes are so ingrained in American pop culture that it's absurd to assume that only actual mobsters can possibly carry out a mafia-style hit.

This whole thing is stupid, but since you're here anyway, please spin us your tale about how DeutscheBank had an urgent need for a different judge, that couldn't be much better handled by any of the vast array of other legitimate and illegitimate tools at their disposal.

The judge was assigned five days ago. The trial hasn't even started yet. DeutscheBank has literally years to work this out via motions, stonewalling, bribery, straightforward lawyering, settlements without admission of wrongdoing, slap on the wrist fines, scapegoats, etc.

So what's your theory? There's one key piece of evidence that brings the whole house of cards crashing down on the CEO, and the judge has already said she's going to allow it in the trial?

 

[TragicMonkey]

I suppose next someone will suggest a Wayfair storage cabinet was found in her garage.

 

[casebro]

So, did losing that case lead to other ramifications? Rights clients left, business clients too, no new cases, life turns to doo-doo?

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Unbalanced. Mafia tropes are so ingrained in American pop culture that it's absurd to assume that only actual mobsters can possibly carry out a mafia-style hit.

This whole thing is stupid, but since you're here anyway, please spin us your tale about how DeutscheBank had an urgent need for a different judge, that couldn't be much better handled by any of the vast array of other legitimate and illegitimate tools at their disposal.

The judge was assigned five days ago. The trial hasn't even started yet. DeutscheBank has literally years to work this out via motions, stonewalling, bribery, straightforward lawyering, settlements without admission of wrongdoing, slap on the wrist fines, scapegoats, etc.

So what's your theory? There's one key piece of evidence that brings the whole house of cards crashing down on the CEO, and the judge has already said she's going to allow it in the trial?

Especially considering the target was a judge. I'm sure there's no shortage of people who have had unfavorable rulings that might bear a grudge.

Unhinged MRA who thinks the system screwed him seems like a pretty reasonable explanation. The whole MRA ideology is seeded with violent, anti-social cranks.

 

[pgwenthold]

Sure the guy was a trumpet, but still there's no indication that he was on a trump-enemy destruction mission.

 

[Vixen]

Unbalanced. Mafia tropes are so ingrained in American pop culture that it's absurd to assume that only actual mobsters can possibly carry out a mafia-style hit.

This whole thing is stupid, but since you're here anyway, please spin us your tale about how DeutscheBank had an urgent need for a different judge, that couldn't be much better handled by any of the vast array of other legitimate and illegitimate tools at their disposal.

The judge was assigned five days ago. The trial hasn't even started yet. DeutscheBank has literally years to work this out via motions, stonewalling, bribery, straightforward lawyering, settlements without admission of wrongdoing, slap on the wrist fines, scapegoats, etc.

So what's your theory? There's one key piece of evidence that brings the whole house of cards crashing down on the CEO, and the judge has already said she's going to allow it in the trial?

Deep state sending a message. Reading the article in post #3 [his resumé] you can see he spent significant time in Russia and the then USSR, even involved in developing their intelligence. So my theory s this...














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He is an MK-ULTRA robot with a silicon chip in his temporal lobe obeying orders from the agents who put it there.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

So, did losing that case lead to other ramifications? Rights clients left, business clients too, no new cases, life turns to doo-doo?

The guy filing the cases was also the plantiff. Given that he was in his 60's, it seemed to be a personal quest against women rather than any kind of business strategy.

Dude seemed legit unhinged. Would just be another run-of-the-mill pro se nutbag, but he had a law degree, so he was more competent.

 

[Vixen]

The guy filing the cases was also the plantiff. Given that he was in his 60's, it seemed to be a personal quest against women rather than any kind of business strategy.

Dude seemed legit unhinged. Would just be another run-of-the-mill pro se nutbag, but he had a law degree, so he was more competent.

One small detail...he didn't shoot any females he shot the son and his dad.

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

He is an MK-ULTRA robot with a silicon chip in his temporal lobe obeying orders from the agents who put it there.

So the silicon chip inside his head got switched to overload? Shouldn't that have happened today rather than yesterday?

 

[Elagabalus]

I suppose next someone will suggest a Wayfair storage cabinet was found in her garage.

What's the SKU number for that cabinet? I think that I might like one of those for my garage.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

One small detail...he didn't shoot any females he shot the son and his dad.

At the house of the judge that ruled against him. He rang the doorbell and shot who answered, not exactly a super specific assasination method. Either way it's a dire blow against the woman judge that ruled against him in his MRA crusade.

 

[catsmate]

If any developing story had 'conspiracy' written all over it, it has to be the gunning down of Judge Salas' son. Salas had just been appointed five days ago as the judge to preside over the Deutsche Bank money laundering case.

No. It has "lunatic conspiracy theory" written all over it.

Strong connections to Epstein as one of the charges is allegedly their allowing him to launder his ill-gotten gains there.

No.

So the 'hitman' wearing a Fedex uniform and delivering a 'Fedex parcel' turned out to be a 'disgruntled attorney' who had lost a case under Salas five years ago. He was found shot dead in a car in New York Catskill not long after.

It is strange an attorney would hold a grudge about losing a case, usually it is a resentful litigant or defendant who feels unjustly treated or made to pay unfair costs. The lawyer gets his or her money in any case. And waiting five years.

Except he was the litigant, in a nonsensical incel motivated case, was slapped down and was, basically, nuts.

So it has all the hallmarks of a Lee Oswald type assassination with the hitman being bumped off by another hitman. 'A secret between two people is safe if one is dead'.

Utter bollocks.

Epstein's hand waves out of the grave...?

Again utter bollocks. The kind of ridiculous conspiratorial nonsense that appeals to people who need to believe in conspiracies.

ETA: the gunman found dead in the car is allegedly Roy Den Hollander and his resumé looks like this:

Spot the Russia connection.

Oh good grief.

Seems quite random to just fire at whoever answers the door. That has hitman all over it, as mafia types target family.

No. It has 'idiot; all over it.

The Mens Rights Activism case can be seen here:

Unbalanced or primed by an agent?

An incel, ergo mentally unbalanced and misogynist.

 

[Checkmite]

According to this article the guy might be connected to another murder in California:

Authorities believe an attorney found dead in New York Monday was the shooter who killed a New Jersey federal judge's son and wounded her husband a day earlier, law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case tell News 4.

And now authorities are also looking into his possible connection to the death of another prominent men's rights figure in California earlier this month, sources say.

The body, identified by sources as attorney Roy Den Hollander, was found on a property in the Sullivan County town of Rockland, near Liberty, which is in the New York Catskills. One senior law enforcement official says authorities are looking into whether there was a package or envelope addressed to the judge found near Den Hollander, who may have died of self-inflicted gunshot wounds.

According to law enforcement sources, investigators found material with Den Hollander on the California murder victim, as well as information about Judge Janet DiFiore, the chief judge of the state of New York. The FBI has been in contact with DiFiore to advise her of the finding.

Den Hollander is a notoriously anti-feminist men's rights attorney, whose vitriolic website and book condemn women in rage-filled terms. In one of his books, he specifically blasted Salas by name as "lazy and incompetent" and said her only accomplishment was being a high school cheerleader. Den Hollander appeared in her court at one time as counsel in a lawsuit over the all-male military draft.

(Den Hollander previously sued multiple NBC News anchors, as well as anchors from other networks, and alleged they engaged in an illegal conspiracy to prevent Donald Trump's election to the presidency.)

 

[Samson]

At the house of the judge that ruled against him. He rang the doorbell and shot who answered, not exactly a super specific assasination method. Either way it's a dire blow against the woman judge that ruled against him in his MRA crusade.

How easy is it to find where judges live?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

IMO this is a disgruntled ass until proven otherwise. If he had terminal cancer I might reconsider.

One would think it was a case already ruled on, not one pending. How is eliminating a judge on a pending or ongoing trial helpful? There are possibilities but they are far-fetched.

And shooting whomever answered the door plus the husband inside suggests poor planning and impulse shooting.