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https://www.thejournal.ie/essex-lorry-4863572-Oct2019/

Murder investigation in UK after 39 people found dead in lorry container

A LORRY CONTAINER carrying 39 dead bodies has been discovered in Essex in the United Kingdom.

A 25-year-old-man from Northern Ireland has been arrested on suspicion of murder following the discovery.

Essex Police say they were called to the scene at Waterglade Industrial Park, Eastern Avenue, Grays by the ambulance service at 1.40 am this morning.

Emergency services were also present but the 39 people were pronounced dead at the scene.

Police say early indications suggest that 38 of the dead are adults and one is aged in their teens.

“This is a tragic incident where a large number of people have lost their lives.
Our enquiries are ongoing to establish what has happened,” Chief Superintendent Andrew Mariner said this morning.

“We have arrested the lorry driver in connection with the incident who remains in police custody as our enquiries continue,” Mariner added.

A cordon remains closed in the area and the business park remains closed.

Holyhead is regularly used as a port accepting vessels that have travelled from Ireland but police have not yet said if this is the case in this instance.

Essex Police are due to provide a further update on the investigation at about 11.30 am this morning.

Seamus Leheny, Northern Ireland policy manager for the Freight Transport Association told BBC News that if the lorry had come from Bulgaria, getting into Britain via Holyhead was an “unorthodox route”.

He said: “People have been saying that security and checks have been increased at places like Dover and Calais, so it might be seen as an easier way to get in by going from Cherbourg or Roscoff, over to Rosslare, then up the road to Dublin.

“It’s a long way around and it’ll add an extra day to the journey.”

Paige Wade, who was driving past the industrial park at 4.15am, told the PA news agency that there was a lot of police activity at the scene this morning.

“I had just finished work while driving up Motherwell Way and all you could see was blue flashing lights, as I was driving past there was police tape to cordon off the start of Eastern Avenue.
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I think an educated guess can figure it out.

Not enough drilled air holes and ventilation, would probably be up there
 
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39 dead in a lorry - driver arrested

In some gruesome news a couple of days ago it was reported that thirty-nine people, including one teenager, were found dead in the back of a refrigerated lorry (it is not known at this stage if the fridge was on) at an industrial park in Grays, Essex, UK and the driver arrested, after pulling in from having picked up the trailer/container from Purfleet a port near Tilbury, a major docking point from Europe (France/Belgium/Denmark/Sweden/Russia).

The driver, 25-year old 'Mo' Robinson from Portadown, Tyrone, Northern Ireland had driven from his home with his driver's cabin, picked up the container, believed to have arrived from Zeebrugge, Belgium and originating from Bulgaria - an estimated three-day journey overland, circa 1:05 am. Now what is interesting, is that within 35 minutes it is claimed Mr Robinson himself discovered the bodies and called the emergency services.

Yet, the press have labelled this poor fellow 'one of Britain's worse mass murderers'. Now, he may or may not be involved in organised people trafficking crime but to labelled this young father-to-be a 'mass murderer' and plaster his face all over the media is beyond appalling and also inhumane and another Chris Jeffries waiting to happen.

Even the BBC are reporting it was the 'ambulance services' who discovered the body.

Ambulance staff discovered the bodies in the container at Waterglade Industrial Park in Grays just after 01:30 BST on Wednesday. The lorry and trailer left the port at Purfleet shortly after 01:05.

Eric Van Duyse, a spokesman for the Belgian federal prosecutor's office, said an investigation into the incident was under way.
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He added: "We have no idea at the moment how long the lorry spent in Belgium, it could be hours or days, we just don't know."

The irony is, Mo Robinson is reported by his friends and family and 'the people of Northern Ireland (catholic and protestant') to have been released without charge.

Then there is the spectacle of Boris Johnson and Priti Patel crying fake tears when the UK has one of the worst records for accepting asylum seekers and detention centres have no cap on how long you can be detained for whilst awaiting a deportation decision. Who remembers the Tories' 'hostile environment' policy and the Windrush scandal? These tragedies are waiting to happen.
 
Vixen said:
The irony is, Mo Robinson is reported by his friends and family and 'the people of Northern Ireland (catholic and protestant') to have been released without charge.
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Eh?

"The two searches on Wednesday night are believed to be linked to the arrest of the driver, named locally as 25-year-old Mo Robinson, from Portadown, who is being held and questioned on suspicion of murder by Essex police."

Where does "released without charge" come from?
 
What is concerning is the mixed information about the lorry driver who has been now named and pictured in the press.

There are differing claims about whether or not he phoned the emergency services.

We do not know how long he had been driving the lorry for.
We do not know if he had access to the trailer.
We do not know if he was a patsy or even driving the vehicle under threat of violence.
We do not know why he parked where he did, was it because he was suspicious of what was inside and wanted to go somewhere quiet and check?
 
A photo of the lorry being driven away shows it is left hand drive. There have been reports it is registered in NI, Bulgaria and now even Belgium. This is one of the most confused, speculative news reports I have seen.
 
Nessie said:
A photo of the lorry being driven away shows it is left hand drive. There have been reports it is registered in NI, Bulgaria and now even Belgium. This is one of the most confused, speculative news reports I have seen.
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The ownership is probably purposely convoluted to **** so the organisers will evade identification and the driver can be a "fall scum/guy"
 
GlennB said:
Eh?

"The two searches on Wednesday night are believed to be linked to the arrest of the driver, named locally as 25-year-old Mo Robinson, from Portadown, who is being held and questioned on suspicion of murder by Essex police."

Where does "released without charge" come from?
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Twitter.
 
Nessie said:
What is concerning is the mixed information about the lorry driver who has been now named and pictured in the press.

There are differing claims about whether or not he phoned the emergency services.

We do not know how long he had been driving the lorry for.
We do not know if he had access to the trailer.
We do not know if he was a patsy or even driving the vehicle under threat of violence.
We do not know why he parked where he did, was it because he was suspicious of what was inside and wanted to go somewhere quiet and check?
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AIUI that industrial park is a common stopping point for long distance lorry drivers from the continent. IOW no more suspicious than stopping at a service station.
 
Let's face it, 'Mo' Robinson, the driver, is hardly going to be keeping a running commentary on his FB page were he knowingly involved in serious organised crime.

There is a picture on his FB page of his 'larking around with a policeman', according to the DM.

It also says the 39 were 'probably dead at least 15 hours'. But Mr Robinson only had the container in his possession for little more than 35 minutes.
 
Vixen said:
AIUI that industrial park is a common stopping point for long distance lorry drivers from the continent. IOW no more suspicious than stopping at a service station.
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I did not think it suspicious he stopped there, I know drivers stop for breaks and checks and industrial estates are a good place to do that. I was speculating he checked the load, due to reports he phoned the emergency services.
 
cullennz said:
The ownership is probably purposely convoluted to **** so the organisers will evade identification and the driver can be a "fall scum/guy"
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The thing is, with that kind of truck, only the tractor is usually owned by the driver or whoever the driver is working for. In simple terms, the driver would typically be told, "go to such and such a place, hook up that trailer and take it to another such and such a place"

In the case of a contracting long distance truck driver (which this guy appears to be, judging by the photos on his Facebook page of the various different trailers being dragged by his truck) a typical sequence of events might be that he would be contracted by a transport company to haul a container trailer of, say, machine parts from "A" to "B", then he might deadhead 30 miles to "C" where he hooks up a refrigerated trailer to bring back to "A". The truck driver, and even the transport company might have no idea what is in the trailer, and they usually would not inspect anything other that the paperwork.

The ownership of the truck is not really relevant, its the ownership of the trailer he is hauling that would need to be established.
 
The tractor unit is left hand drive but has English writing on it. It is apparently from Bulgaria, but is registered to a company in NI.

There is little doubt that there is a business link between the two, but is it refrigerated food transportation, or human trafficking, or both or the NI company was unlucky and had their unit hijacked by traffickers?
 
smartcooky said:
The thing is, with that kind of truck, only the tractor is usually owned by the driver or whoever the driver is working for. In simple terms, the driver would typically be told, "go to such and such a place, hook up that trailer and take it to another such and such a place"

In the case of a contracting long distance truck driver (which this guy appears to be, judging by the photos on his Facebook page of the various different trailers being dragged by his truck) a typical sequence of events might be that he would be contracted by a transport company to haul a container trailer of, say, machine parts from "A" to "B", then he might deadhead 30 miles to "C" where he hooks up a refrigerated trailer to bring back to "A". The truck driver, and even the transport company might have no idea what is in the trailer, and they usually would not inspect anything other that the paperwork.

The ownership of the truck is not really relevant, its the ownership of the trailer he is hauling that would need to be established.
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There should be a legal requirement for all trailer units to be opened by the driver and checked, prior to leaving the port.
 
smartcooky said:
The thing is, with that kind of truck, only the tractor is usually owned by the driver or whoever the driver is working for. In simple terms, the driver would typically be told, "go to such and such a place, hook up that trailer and take it to another such and such a place"

In the case of a contracting long distance truck driver (which this guy appears to be, judging by the photos on his Facebook page of the various different trailers being dragged by his truck) a typical sequence of events might be that he would be contracted by a transport company to haul a container trailer of, say, machine parts from "A" to "B", then he might deadhead 30 miles to "C" where he hooks up a refrigerated trailer to bring back to "A". The truck driver, and even the transport company might have no idea what is in the trailer, and they usually would not inspect anything other that the paperwork.

The ownership of the truck is not really relevant, its the ownership of the trailer he is hauling that would need to be established.
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True

It is a frustrating case given the lack of details.

For all we know they may have been dead already when he picked it up from an earlier leg, so no noise coming out of the thing.
 
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