Your thoughts on Astral Projection.

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Hi everyone, I'm new here. My name is Amy! :) I have a question, what does everyone think of Astral Projection?

An astral projection (out-of-body experience) is usually a dream or lucid dream... it ends with the feeling of waking up and having falling from the out of the sky or through your bed. To learn more, you can type the name Jonas Ridgeway into Google and find the coolest astral projection website ever. I myself have astral projected before, by accident at times, when going back into a deep sleep in the morning. I'd have lucid experiences outside my physical body by accident. Usually, psychics like Sylvia Browne or John Edward use the word spirit and astral interchangeably. I have a question: Have you guys' ever Astral Projected? :cool:

I'd like your opinions on Astral Projection. Thanks.
 
It's a dream, if anything. I seriously doubt any out of body experiences take place.
 
Good evening.
I believe I heard Mr. Randi refer to it as half-astral projection.
That's good enough for me.
JPK
 
When done while sleeping, it is best described as dreaming.
When done while awake, it is best described as fantastizing.

If you think you are really projecting yourself to another location, it is very easy to test. Remove five cards from a deck of cards. Shuffle these five cards, select one, and place it face up on a tall bookshelf. Then project yourself to the top of the room and identify the card. Repeat the process enough times and you't find you are right about once every five times.

If you can consistently perform better than chance on such a test, feel free to apply for the JREF million-dollar prize (details can be found on another part of this website).
 
Amy,
Just out of curiosity, how did you come across this site?
 
I think that what you are discribing is a falling dream, or a flying dream. I have these dreams frequently. You feel like you get up from where you were sleeping, and either float or walk or run somewhere else. Just before you wake up, you feel like your body is being sucked back toward your bed, and as you wake up, you feel like you were just about to fall through your bed.

Falling dreams, flying dreams, and dreams of being naked in public are the three most common types of dreams. I have falling/flying dreams all the time, and while they are quite fun and realistic, I can assure you, they are nothing but dreams. Your "soul" is not leaving your body, and you are still in your bed the entire time.

Next time you are dreaming, see if you can identify something unusual about your environment, such as an object in an unusual place, or someone doing something that they normally wouldn't do. If you can reliably and correctly do this, I think James Randi has 1 million dollars for you :) . There is nothing more to this phenomenon than images your brain conjours up during sleep. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
This reminds me of my first post. I have OBE, or sleep paralysis as it actually is, quite frequently. Scares the hell outta me most times, but I've learned to deal with it. I've also learned to stop spinning my wheels trying to figure out why I can't astral project myself. You can't. Take my advice - don't buy any books on OBE and astral projection either.... waste of time.
 
Here is one of my astral projection events everyone, please don't bash me until you've read it... :)

About four years ago, when falling back into deep sleep in bed, I rose up (almost by accident) and started walking around my room. I thought I was simply lucid dreaming (a very real lucid dream - no dream qualities about it) ... I'd walk toward my desk while lucid, walk around my room, look at my bedroom walls, etc, then while standing next to my desk I looked down at my hand and watched my hand melt. This event has happened to me by accident more then once.

When I bought the internet years later, probably four years later, I read on Spiritual.com.au (World's Most Popular Spiritual Destination) that when you project the astral body close to the physical world, the astral body is made out of etheric matter... and if you try to look at your hands or arms, for example, they'll melt very quickly like ice under a blow torch. Ethereal matter is supposedly what angels are made out of, too.

I wish I could astral project for James Randi, but I can't never get relaxed or meditated enough to astral project on purpose. :) It's odd knowing that astral projection is real, and people not believing it. It's like knowing the birds outside are real and people saying they're not. All my astral projections have been by accident. Seeing through your closed eyelides when waking up or physical paralyses is also said by some to be the projection taking place.

It's true.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Amy.. you were dreaming, that's all.
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There's an unbridgeable difference between dreaming (jumbled memory images in your mind) and walking around your bedroom wide-awake for about 40 seconds and then walking toward your desk wide-awake and watching your hand melt.

Everything Spiritual.com.au talked about on the Astral Projection subject I've done by accident. It's not like I wanted to astral project in the first place.


AnotherSillyAlias said:
You bought the entire internet?

Wow, you must be rich, I'm impressed.
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No, amy.. you dreamed that your hand melted. If your hand melted, it would still be melted. You are a dreamer, dreams can be very vivid and realistic, but they are still dreams.
 
AmyWilson said:
There's an unbridgeable difference between dreaming (jumbled memory images in your mind) and walking around your bedroom wide-awake for about 40 seconds and then walking toward your desk wide-awake and watching your hand melt.

Everything Spiritual.com.au talked about on the Astral Projection subject I've done by accident. It's not like I wanted to astral project in the first place.
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Since you're new I'm going to take pity on you and explain a few things.

This forum is composed mainly of skeptics. They are not going to believe something just because you think it's true or want to believe it's true and we're certainly not going to believe it just because it's on some wooish website.

If you want us to believe what you're saying you are going to have to provide us with EVIDENCE. If you don't want to do this we will simply regard your stories as either self delusion or stories from the extremely gullible.
 
Amy, despite what you think you are dreaming. When it happens when you are close to waking up things will seem more real. You will remember more. Things will be connected, make more sense (if you can call it sense).

AnotherSillyAlias is right. If you want to believed here you will have to provide us with good evidence. And that means more than your memories of these occurences, because they are not sufficient for proof of an extraordinary ability. Anecdotes may be accepted in places like your Spiritual website, but not here. Here we require scientific proof of extraordinary claims.
 
There's an unbridgeable difference between dreaming (jumbled memory images in your mind) and walking around your bedroom wide-awake for about 40 seconds and then walking toward your desk wide-awake and watching your hand melt.
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You could be sleepwalking. I had a similar experience where I literally walked halfway up the stairs while still asleep. I woke up sitting on the stairs, awfully confused as to how I got there. It was bizarre, but it didn't involve me astrally projecting anything anywhere. Sometimes the body does strange things when asleep/dreaming. But it is the body doing it, not an ethereal being.

The "paralysis" that you cite is a well known phenomenon (sleep paralysis). I have never experienced it personally, but I have read numerous accounts of it. Our New-Age culture has associated it with things like astral projection or succubii. And people who experienced it swear they astrally projected themselves or were visited by a supernatural being trying to suck their life force. In Japan, though, sleep paralysis is associated with a furry demon (something that sounds somewhat like a racoon/tanuki from how it is described) sitting on one's chest. And I know people who swear that they woke up and saw the furry demon sitting on their chest. Their frightening experience is colored by their cultural superstitions/beliefs, just as yours are.

I've had lots of very lucid dreams, very realistic dreams, very scary dreams. But they were dreams.
 
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