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Yeti Watch 2003!

So, he's just going to shake hands with him when he finds him? That will be an incredible piece of evidence.

You can't prove a crime without a body. Too bad this guy doesn't have the sense to shoot one.
 
Though I seriously doubt that they will find anything, my opinion on this expedition depends on a factor that wasn't addressed in the article. Simply put, how many times has it been tried before?

If there have been many serious searches for Yeti that have turned up empty, then this one is a waste of time and resources that could be better put to good use elsewhere.

If there haven't been a lot of serious searches, then dismissing this one out of hand is sort of dogmatic. It wouldn't be good science to say "there is no such thing as a yeti" until one has actually tried to turn up evidence of one and failed. And if, by some off chance there is actually something to the yeti story, then we would never know until we look.

I have no idea how many attempts have been made, by serious researchers to find yetis. So I have to withhold judgement on this one.
 
So they've got infrared-sensing equipment. I'm sure you've all seen infrared footage. It's usually pretty fuzzy. Supposing they get shots of 'something' that glows infrared from a distance, and we can't really make out any details. Presumably if it's really a yeti it would flee before they could approach it, otherwise someone would probably have met up with a yeti already. And this guy expects to get close enough to shake hands?

Where was I going with this?
 
footprints in snow can become very interesting

I lived in a remote part of Canada with in walking distance of the rocky mountains, saw many tracks that would become affected by weather conditions

Bear, wolf, and human prints can be acted upon by wind, thawing , freezing, and some times other animals will step in existing tracks... it is fun to try and analyse and speculate what these prints orgionally were. Many bear and human tracks have been labelled "sasquatch" and "bigfoot", and the evidence never supports these interpretations.

Some look "alien". That is, the tracks can not be attributed to a known/template print, but the most likely suspects are either human or bear and wolf. Bear stools occassionally accompany bear tracks, and that can help confirm if the tracks are eroded and malformed my weather conditions. Wolf and coyote have a distinct "wandering" pattern, generally with "S" curves". Hares can leave some interesting tacks, as can lynx and couger.

Human prints are conspicuously even paced, and linear. Snowshoe imprints can be fun, and you can pull someone's leg :) if snowshoes are not within their experience.

Yoshiteru Takahashi said he had seen footprints on Mount Dhaulagiri during trips to the world's seventh-highest mountain in the 1970s and 1990s which he believed belonged to the Yeti. "They [the footprints] were very, very close to human footsteps," Takahashi

The article does not mention it, but I wonder if Tahahashi mentioned that he would consider the high probability that the prints were human, after all he was on the mountain, presumably leaving prints... perhaps he was walking in circles and encountered his own tracks that were changed by wind and new snow fall. Perhaps another human was on the mountain just mere days before.

Have fun with these track fields.
There are no correct answers when interpreting animal tracks, unless, of course, you saw the animal make the tracks. However, there are good and bad interpretations. Good interpretations are based on skillful observation and deduction and are most often very close to the truth of how the tracks were made.

Tahahashi's interpretation, as reported in the article, is a bad interpretation of the tracks he saw. His interpretation is not close to how the tracks were made. Yeti tracks are out of the scope and experience of Tahahashi, myself, and billions of others, and there is no frame of reference to draw on. Not a robust interpretation; it will not hold up to scrutiny.
 
woodguard said:
Good story, but I have one nit to pick with the reporting.

One of the sentences reads:

"Present-day apes and humans had a common ancestor in the distant past -- perhaps 6 million years ago, scientists say."

Actually, no. What "scientists" say is that present-day chimps and humans had a common ancestor that lived 5-6 million years ago. The common ancestor between present-day gorillas (which are also a kind of ape) and humans is thought to have lived considerably earlier. And don't even get me started on orangutans.
 
Lets suppose there is a small population of large apes (small but viable to maintain the species- what would it be? 100 individuals? 1000? ) living so above the snow line in desert mountain peaks. What would they eat :rolleyes: ?

Have the yeti researchers ever considered that?

I remember seeing a documantary on National Geographic where they claimed to have obtained "unknown DNA" from what was supposed to be hair samples from the equivalent of the yeti that is supposed to live in southeastern Asia.

Anyone has any info on that or its just another bogus report?
 
tracer said:

"Present-day apes and humans had a common ancestor in the distant past -- perhaps 6 million years ago, scientists say."
Actually, no. What "scientists" say is that present-day chimps and humans had a common ancestor that lived 5-6 million years ago. The common ancestor between present-day gorillas (which are also a kind of ape) and humans is thought to have lived considerably earlier. And don't even get me started on orangutans.


Humans are apes.

Though it is common to consider them to be superior to other apes, and separate. Arrogant creatures, eh? And utterly crazy...
 
Correa Neto said:
Lets suppose there is a small population of large apes (small but viable to maintain the species- what would it be? 100 individuals? 1000? ) living so above the snow line in desert mountain peaks. What would they eat :rolleyes: ?

Have the yeti researchers ever considered that?

Absolutely.
It's similar to the Loch Ness Monster. Nobody ever reports seeing a baby, or a family or even a mating (blush). Apparently these gullible people think there is precisely one dinosaur in the Loch. Obviously it's pretty 'long-lived'. :rolleyes:
 

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