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Yet another police state story: Sneak and Peek Patriot Act

shecky

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Feingold starts talking tough on the Patriot Act.

Let me make one final point about sneak and peek warrants. Don't be fooled for a minute into believing that this power is needed to investigate terrorism or espionage. It's not. Section 213 is a criminal provision that could apply in whatever kind of criminal investigation the government has undertaken. In fact, most sneak and peek warrants are issued for drug investigations. So why do I say that they arent needed in terrorism investigations? Because FISA also can apply to those investigations. And FISA search warrants are always executed in secret, and never require notice. If you really don't want to give notice of a search in a terrorism investigation, you can get a FISA warrant. So any argument that limiting the sneak and peek power as we have proposed will interfere with sensitive terrorism investigations is a red herring.

I wonder when the IRS will start using Sneak And Peek warrants?
 
I wonder when one political party will be caught using them to spy on the other political party?
 
I wonder when one political party will be caught using them to spy on the other political party?

Who needs the PA for that? Break into DNC headquarters, or just leave a stack of FBI files on your political enemies on your nightstand, what's the difference?

As to the OP- isn't a great deal of terror funding obtained through the drug trade? If that's true then I would think this is a perfectly rational use of the law.
 
As to the OP- isn't a great deal of terror funding obtained through the drug trade? If that's true then I would think this is a perfectly rational use of the law.

Drug trade, bootleg movies, 7-11s, mosques, any business. Yes, that's why we need a police state now.
 
Drug trade, bootleg movies, 7-11s, mosques, any business. Yes, that's why we need a police state now.

I think it's a bit premature to call this a police state. Besides, half of your examples are illegal... not exactly a robust rallying point for the revolution, is it? ;)

Besides, Sen. Feingold's opinions on the matter are quite predictable... Frankly, I think his efforts to curtain the 1st amendment with his & McCain's finance reform boondoggle are a bigger threat to the constitution than phone taps on (mostly) criminals.
 
I think it's a bit premature to call this a police state. Besides, half of your examples are illegal... not exactly a robust rallying point for the revolution, is it? ;)
What? You mean revolutions have to be based on factually correct information nowadays? What's the world comming to?
 
What? You mean revolutions have to be based on factually correct information nowadays? What's the world comming to?

No, I'm saying you'd better include porn if you want to draw the really BIG numbers. :D
 

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