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William "Roudy" Rodriguez

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Supposedly when Rodriguez was young (in Puerto Rico) he worked for James Randi. Can anybody verify this. Anyway, how does a man that was helping expose fraud and pseudoscience get taken in by the woowoos?
 
I've seen him quoted that he admires Randi. Where'd you see that he worked for him?
 
Gravy said:
I've seen him quoted that he admires Randi. Where'd you see that he worked for him?
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I pulled up wikipedia and I have seen it mentioned in some other articles. If it is true, I neither understand it nor do I understand why the woowoos being so quick to scream disinfo agent use his testimony although it clearly has changed after he spoke to Chris Bollyn.
 
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I've seen him quoted that he admires Randi. Where'd you see that he worked for him?
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This one says he met Randi, but not that he worked for him:
http://nymag.com/news/features/16464/index5.html
As a boy shining shoes in Puerto Rico, William dreamed of being wrapped in a straitjacket and suspended upside down from a flaming rope. “That was going to be my big trick. It was my goal to become a magician, the greatest illusionist in the Caribbean basin.”

Later, Rodriguez met James Randi, a.k.a. the Amazing Randi, the magician best known as a debunker of supernatural claims, offering the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge to anyone able to demonstrate verifiable evidence of psychic powers.

“Randi was my mentor,” said William. “I admired him for his tricks but also because he never said they were anything but tricks. He separated the truth from the phony.”

William moved to New York, but beyond some gigs at Mostly Magic, his career did not take off. He started working for a cleaning company in the World Trade Center. He’d stay there twenty years.
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But this one says Randi hired him as an assistant:
http://www.buffalobeast.com/89/wellen89.htm
W[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]hen William Rodriguez was a young man, the Amazing Randi hired him as an assistant--but not for help with his magic act. Randi enlisted Roudy, the aspiring magician's stage name in his native Puerto Rico, in his cause: exposing faith healers and psychics. Rodriguez, as Benjamin Smith explained in a New York Sun article, proved adroit at insinuating himself into the good graces of Randi's targets and eliciting incriminating information.[/FONT]
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Dropped a PM to Linda so that Mr. Randi is aware of this thread. he doesn't post in the Forums very often, but since this concerns him personally and is attributed to him, I thought he should be aware of it.

We shall see...
 
Yes, I knew Willy Rodriguez well for many years. He worked many shows with me, but there was never an employer/employee relationship. We have visited often since, and we met recently in NYC. He has now joined the WTC conspiracy crowd, and we disagree on his observations and his conclusions on that matter. I value Willy as a good friend.
 
I think William's accent is amazing, like on his interview talking about WTC when he says "Exploshon". I love it!
 
Why did Williams career as a magican end
and is the "The Keymaster"-Movie released?
 
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Having talked with William Rodriguez, I just thought I'd ad that I found him to be very likeable and very sincere. While I disagree with him about one issue related to 9/11, it's important to remember that he is one of that day's heroes, and his work with 9/11 families deserves much praise.
 
Randi said:
Yes, I knew Willy Rodriguez well for many years. He worked many shows with me, but there was never an employer/employee relationship. We have visited often since, and we met recently in NYC. He has now joined the WTC conspiracy crowd, and we disagree on his observations and his conclusions on that matter. I value Willy as a good friend.
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Thank you for your answer Sir Amazing :)
 
Gravy said:
Having talked with William Rodriguez, I just thought I'd ad that I found him to be very likeable and very sincere. While I disagree with him about one issue related to 9/11, it's important to remember that he is one of that day's heroes, and his work with 9/11 families deserves much praise.
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Was questioning because I heard conflicting accounts.
 
Oliver said:
I´m listening to an interview with William on BBC-Bristol:
http://911truthbristol.com/BBC Bristol 2006-Dec-04 William Rodriguez.mp3

Could it be that the planes collision with the elevator cables
and equipment could cause "an explosion on the mechanical
rooms" below the B1 Level were William was at this time? :confused:
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Oliver, remember we went through this with your very first posts here? C'mon man. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1907291&postcount=40
 
gumboot said:
It scares me how quickly you can bring this stuff up.

I laugh at suggestions you're a government shill, but if someone suggested you were a computer program I might consider it.

-Gumboot
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I am overpriced, obsolete, and largely incompatible with other systems. :(
 
Gravy said:
Oliver, remember we went through this with your very first posts here? C'mon man. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1907291&postcount=40
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I read the post again but there is no mention from the two
explosions beside Williams version of the story. My problem is
if William is lying about the noises, why does he spread this
story nevertheless. I don´t see a gain for him or anyone else
if there are no political agendas of him involved.

Anyway: It´s not very important at all - just tried to find an
easy explanation for the "two noises" whenever a Troofer
confronts me with Williams story.
 
Oliver said:
explosions beside Williams version of the story. My problem is
if William is lying about the noises, why does he spread this
story nevertheless. I don´t see a gain for him or anyone else
if there are no political agendas of him involved.
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I think he genuinely believes his current account of events. Memory is not like digital data. It changes over time. People incorporate new data into their old memories, even if that data contradicts their initial memory.

A perfect example is me and subtitled films. Quite often I will see a foreign film, with subtitles, but will distinctly remember the people on screen speaking english. That is because my brain changes my memory.

For what ever reason he decided 9/11 was an inside job, and has bought into the troofer version of events. His mind has automatically adjusted his memory of events to reflect this new data. I doubt he's even aware he actually did this.

It is worth noting that the stuff I am describing is not only well documented, but very common.

-Gumboot
 
gumboot said:
I think he genuinely believes his current account of events. Memory is not like digital data. It changes over time. People incorporate new data into their old memories, even if that data contradicts their initial memory.

A perfect example is me and subtitled films. Quite often I will see a foreign film, with subtitles, but will distinctly remember the people on screen speaking english. That is because my brain changes my memory.

For what ever reason he decided 9/11 was an inside job, and has bought into the troofer version of events. His mind has automatically adjusted his memory of events to reflect this new data. I doubt he's even aware he actually did this.

It is worth noting that the stuff I am describing is not only well documented, but very common.

-Gumboot
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I know what you mean because i´ve read about
this psychological fallacy. The problem i see is
that he changed the story - which indicates that
he is aware of his lack to remember the events
for certain...
 
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