Why the fear that the transgendered will assault people?

[Travis]

So I was reading yet another screed from the right about how terrible the Girl Scouts are. The latest outrage is over their decision to allow transgendered girls into their program.

http://citizengo.org/en/22667-girl-scouts-girls-not-boys?sid=MjkyNTUyNTg5OTMwMzY0
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Although their cookies may be tasty, the Girl Scouts of America (GSA) has long promoted radical agendas, including teaching girls that abortion and lesbianism are normal and admirable. But now, they've gone even further to promote a sexual ideology to children.
In accordance with the new policy, the GSA website now reads, "If the child is recognized by the family and school/community as a girl and lives culturally as a girl, then Girl Scouts is an organization that can serve her in a setting that is both emotionally and physically safe."

It was all the usual stuff we expect from the right. Then I got to this part.

In plain English, this means that families will be forced play gender make-believe and accept biological boys as girls. Boys in skirts and make-up, sharing tents with young vulnerable girls will now become an accepted part of the Girls Scouts program. This obviously puts children at risk and treats a recognized mental health problem as normative.

Uh, "vulnerable girls"? They are "obviously at risk"? How?

Anyone want to go to bat for this one? I'm really just not getting how allowing a transgendered girl in will put anyone at risk for anything except maybe making a new friend. Oh how terrible!

This is a line that I've seen trotted out again and again when it comes to the transgendered issue. They are so afraid of trans girls in with the other girls for some reason. There seems to be a fear of sexual assault and I can't, for the life of me, figure out why. Why fear that the transgendered will commit an assault? And why only men that are transitioning to women?

 

[Madalch]

Because some people are very small-minded, and can't accept that other people may think differently than they do. They've had fantasies of dressing up as women and sneaking into women-only areas for a bit of naughty fun, and can't think that there would be any other reason for a person with a penis to wear feminine clothes.

 

[HenryLee]

The Transgender Law Center, HRC, GLAAD, ACLU, National Center for Transgender Equality, et al., have failed to cite a single study refuting the evidence that transgender males (“transwomen”) commit crimes against women and girls at exactly the same rate as any other males. https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/statistics-show-the-difference-in-rates-of-violent-crimes-against-women-committed-by-transwomen-versus-non-transgender-males/#comments
The only long-term study of transgender outcomes concluded that “Male to Female” transsexuals retain male-pattern criminality, including crimes against women.http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885%20

Now ,let me anticipate your reply...Well, those aren't real transgenders...and let me ask you, who are you to decide?

 

[Belz...]

"Although their cookies may be tasty, the Girl Scouts of America (GSA) has long promoted radical agendas, including teaching girls that abortion and lesbianism are normal and admirable. "

Ah, yes. The radical agenda of tolerance ! Can't have that. Might offend the just god in the sky.


Maybe these people let God sort it out. See what happens.


However, I still say we need different terms than 'male' and 'female' here.

 

[Upchurch]

I, personally, know two transsexual people and am acquainted with a few others. They are not, in any sense, a physical threat to anyone.

 

[Dcdrac]

I, personally, know two transsexual people and am acquainted with a few others. They are not, in any sense, a physical threat to anyone.

They tend to be more at threat themselves wasthere not a case of of a transgendered person getting murdered in recent times?

 

[Travis]

Now ,let me anticipate your reply...Well, those aren't real transgenders...and let me ask you, who are you to decide?

I fail to see your point. Nothing there says transgenders have to be sex criminals.

 

[Dcdrac]

Found it this case:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/13/national/13transgender.html?_r=0

 

[MG1962]

So I was reading yet another screed from the right about how terrible the Girl Scouts are. The latest outrage is over their decision to allow transgendered girls into their program.

http://citizengo.org/en/22667-girl-scouts-girls-not-boys?sid=MjkyNTUyNTg5OTMwMzY0
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And sadly when you go to your link, it links to the policy that says accommodations will be made in regards to sleeping changing arrangements

Q: How does Girl Scouts' position on serving transgender youth apply to situations involving camping or volunteers?

A: These situations are rare and are considered individually with the best interests of all families in mind. Should any girl requiring special accommodations wish to camp, GSUSA recommends that the local council makes similar accommodation that schools across the country follow in regard to changing, sleeping arrangements, and other travel-related activities. With respect to volunteers, Girl Scouts welcomes both male and female adult volunteers and has developed appropriate safeguards regarding roles and responsibilities to ensure that girls receive the proper supervision and support.

Just another storm in a chocolate teapot

 

[ThunderChunky]

Anyone want to go to bat for this one? I'm really just not getting how allowing a transgendered girl in will put anyone at risk for anything except maybe making a new friend. Oh how terrible!

Hard to enter the mind of some of these people, but I think it's the same fear as the locker room/bathroom issue. I'm not sure what the exact fear is perhaps it's seeing a penis or maybe they think the trans kid is just pretending to be a girl so she can get close and molest/seduce them.

 

[ponderingturtle]

They tend to be more at threat themselves wasthere not a case of of a transgendered person getting murdered in recent times?

There generally is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people

 

[A'isha]

Now ,let me anticipate your reply...Well, those aren't real transgenders...and let me ask you, who are you to decide?

And if you actually read the study, instead of citing some crackpot TERF blog, you'd find it says the following:

Other facets to consider are first that this study reflects the outcome of psychiatric and somatic treatment for transsexualism provided in Sweden during the 1970s and 1980s. Since then, treatment has evolved with improved sex reassignment surgery, refined hormonal treatment,[11], [41] and more attention to psychosocial care that might have improved the outcome. Second, transsexualism is a rare condition and Sweden is a small country (9.2 million inhabitants in 2008). Hence, despite being based on a comparatively large national cohort and long-term follow-up, the statistical power was limited.

Sweden, despite having a reputation as one of the most liberal and enlightened nations on the planet, has long had a rather horrifically strict and repressive attitude towards transgender people. It wasn't until just two years ago, for example, that the law there mandating sexual reassignment surgery and sterilization for anyone wanting to legally change their sex and banning transgender people from getting married was finally overturned.

So perhaps basing your view of transgender people as a whole on one study of the outcomes for a tiny population of them post-SRS in one of the worst countries to be transgender in isn't the wisest of moves.

 

[HenryLee]

There it is, the old "Real Feminists know that women have penises." Who's the crackpot in this equation?

 

[marplots]

I fail to see your point. Nothing there says transgenders have to be sex criminals.

I thought they meant TGs were vampires. I wouldn't want my daughter to share a tent with a vampire.

 

[The Atheist]

And sadly when you go to your link, it links to the policy that says accommodations will be made in regards to sleeping changing arrangements

I should bloody well think so. If they share showers or bedrooms, the other girls might see a penis!

Scarred for life, they'd be.

Anyone want to go to bat for this one? I'm really just not getting how allowing a transgendered girl in will put anyone at risk for anything except maybe making a new friend. Oh how terrible!

You're failing to take into account that transgenderism is highly contagious.

Heck, you shut those girls up with a TG and they'll all be asking for lumberjack shirts and boots next christmas.

 

[marplots]

"The only penis my little girl should see is mine!"
"Wait. Not that. Don't print that part."

 

[Travis]

There it is, the old "Real Feminists know that women have penises." Who's the crackpot in this equation?

Are you responding to an alternate universe thread?

 

[Arcade22]

Boys in skirts and make-up, sharing tents with young vulnerable girls will now become an accepted part of the Girls Scouts program. This obviously puts children at risk and treats a recognized mental health problem as normative.

Yes because lets just ignore the fact that the "boy" is probably at more risk from being bullied and harassed by said "young vulnerable girls" than anything else.

 

[marplots]

Will there be a merit badge?

 

[12AX7]

FACT: Gays can (and do) release "gay spores". These spores can turn anyone n the immediate area into "teh gayz" as well.

Here's an excellent video (about 4 minutes) on what will happen if gays marry. Not the same topic as the OP, but you'll understand why the concern is real for dangers such as this. This is what happens when this lifestyle is left unchecked.