why Nuclear Physics cannot be entirelly correct

[pedrone]

There are several failures in current Nuclear Physics.

I will give here an example so that to be understood by a lay man.


Look:

1- The interaction proton-neutron occurs through the strong nuclear force, which is 100 times stronger than the electromagnetic interaction.

2- The spin of nucleons is electromagnetic, and so a spin-interaction is 100 times weaker than a strong force interaction.

From the facts 1 and 2 we conclude:

3- The spin-interaction cannot influence the proton-neutron interaction. To expect that spin-interaction may influence the proton-neutron interaction is like to expect that a 5 years old child can bring down an elephant with a karate blow.


However, the experiments showed that spin-interaction do influences the proton-neutron interaction, because:
the proton-neutron interaction is 40% stronger when the proton and neutron have parallel spins.


Do you believe that a 5 years old child can bring down an elephant with a karate blow ?
Do you?

If you do, then current Nuclear Physics can be correct (in your opinion )


There are other experiments that deny current Nuclear Physics.

So, current Nuclear Physics is not entirelly correct. Something is missing in the theory.

 

[fspeak]

There are several failures in current Nuclear Physics.

I will give here an example so that to be understood by a lay man.


Look:

1- The interaction proton-neutron occurs through the strong nuclear force, which is 100 times stronger than the electromagnetic interaction.

2- The spin of nucleons is electromagnetic, and so a spin-interaction is 100 times weaker than a strong force interaction.

From the facts 1 and 2 we conclude:

3- The spin-interaction cannot influence the proton-neutron interaction. To expect that spin-interaction may influence the proton-neutron interaction is like to expect that a 5 years old child can bring down an elephant with a karate blow.


However, the experiments showed that spin-interaction do influences the proton-neutron interaction, because:
the proton-neutron interaction is 40% stronger when the proton and neutron have parallel spins.


Do you believe that a 5 years old child can bring down an elephant with a karate blow ?
Do you?

If you do, then current Nuclear Physics can be correct (in your opinion )


There are other experiments that deny current Nuclear Physics.

So, current Nuclear Physics is not entirelly correct. Something is missing in the theory.

That may be the crudest strawman I've ever seen.

'My opponent's argument is like an elephant being brought down by a 5 year old's karate chop. This is not possible, therefore my opponent is wrong'.

 

[Ziggurat]

2- The spin of nucleons is electromagnetic

No it isn't.

 

[pedrone]

That may be the crudest strawman I've ever seen.

'My opponent's argument is like an elephant being brought down by a 5 year old's karate chop. This is not possible, therefore my opponent is wrong'.

there are people very proud of their ignorance and inability to understand a single scientific argument

 

[Halfcentaur]

Why is he telling us this and not changing the world's grasp of nuclear physics?

 

[pedrone]

No it isn't.

Do not make me laugh

 

[pedrone]

Why is he telling us this and not changing the world's grasp of nuclear physics?

why dont you ask the same to the nuclear theorists ?

 

[nvidiot]

What evidence can you provide for your assertions Pedrone?

 

[John Jones]

there are people very proud of their ignorance and inability to understand a single scientific argument

You for example.

I've read enough of your nonsense.

*plonk*

 

[Reality Check]

1- The interaction proton-neutron occurs through the strong nuclear force, which is 100 times stronger than the electromagnetic interaction.

2- The spin of nucleons is electromagnetic, and so a spin-interaction is 100 times weaker than a strong force interaction.

From the facts 1 and 2 we conclude:

3- The spin-interaction cannot influence the proton-neutron interaction..

Postulate 2 is wrong and so the conclusion from your posulates is wrong. The spin of nucleons is a quantum mechanical propoerty. It has nothing to do with electromagnetism.

 

[Reality Check]

there are people very proud of their ignorance and inability to understand a single scientific argument

Please present a single scientific argument instead of nonsense

 

[pedrone]

What evidence can you provide for your assertions Pedrone?

Instead of continuing to say nonsenses, I suggest everybody to invite a nuclear theorist to come in here, so that to explain us how the spin-interaction can influence the proton-neutron interaction according to Nuclear Physics.

 

[Halfcentaur]

why dont you ask the same to the nuclear theorists ?

Are you implying there is a conspiracy to silence these truths? Can you explain why such a thing would be suppressed?

 

[nvidiot]

Originally Posted by nvidiot
What evidence can you provide for your assertions Pedrone?

Instead of continuing to say nonsenses, I suggest everybody to invite a nuclear theorist to come in here, so that to explain us how the spin-interaction can influence the proton-neutron interaction according to Nuclear Physics.

No, you're making a claim, one which you have yet to provide evidence for.

What evidence do you have that the current field of nuclear physics is wrong?

 

[pedrone]

No, you're making a claim, one which you have yet to provide evidence for.

What evidence do you have that the current field of nuclear physics is wrong?

I will be waiting the nuclear theorist to explain us why the spin-interaction influences the proton-neutron interaction

I will not waste my time with lay men

 

[Oualawouzou]

I will not waste my time with lay men

So I trust you'll take that theory of yours and go straight to the University of your choice, right?

 

[nvidiot]

Who says I'm a layman? And if you wanted to ask a nuclear physicist a question you should have gone to a university, not a skeptics forum.

Again: got evidence?

 

[nvidiot]

Sry double post.

 

[Reality Check]

Instead of continuing to say nonsenses, I suggest everybody to invite a nuclear theorist to come in here, so that to explain us how the spin-interaction can influence the proton-neutron interaction according to Nuclear Physics.

Instead of continuing to say nonsenses, I suggest you to, pedrone

1. Cite the source for your definition of "spin-interaction" that you thnk is electromagnetic.
2. Go invite a nuclear theorist to come in here since it is your thread and theory not ours here.

This is your idea and your thread so you provide the evidence.
If you do not then you look like just another dumb internet troll.
If you do then you look as if you have some brains.

Otherwise we will have to ho with the standard definition of spin (an quantum mechanical property of partiecle) that has a known effect on the forces between the particles. For nucleons this leads to the nuclear shell model.

 

[Halfcentaur]

I will be waiting the nuclear theorist to explain us why the spin-interaction influences the proton-neutron interaction

I will not waste my time with lay men

Do you find assertion and validation in having these views challenged? Why would you posit such things on a forum for skeptics rather than a forum for physics?


If there is no conspiracy, are you implying these revelations in science are a product of your personal insight, and that the world has just been lacking in the insight you have?