Why aren't whites included?

[Cainkane1]

http://youtu.be/Wm4ZTSOen0k This video addresses an interesting question. When non black races such as white people or asians are attacked because of their race ad ethnicity why isn't it classified as a hate crime?

I pride myself on not being racist but if I were attacked and injured because I was white I feel I should expect my attackers to be punished if a gang of whie trash thugs attacked and killled or injured some unfortunant black person.

 

[Darat]

They are in the UK.

 

[sarge]

http://youtu.be/Wm4ZTSOen0k When non black races such as white people or asians are attacked because of their race ad ethnicity why isn't it classified as a hate crime?

It is.

I pride myself on not being racist but if I were attacked and injured because I was white I feel I should expect my attackers to be punished if a gang of whie trash thugs attacked and killled or injured some unfortunant black person.

Rest easy. While African Americans commit a disproportinately large percentage of total crimes, including assualts against persons, white people commit a disproportionately large percentage of hate crimes. You probably do not have to worry about being assaulted because you are white - although you may have other reasons to worry about assault.

 

[Crossbow]

http://youtu.be/Wm4ZTSOen0k This video addresses an interesting question. When non black races such as white people or asians are attacked because of their race ad ethnicity why isn't it classified as a hate crime?

I pride myself on not being racist but if I were attacked and injured because I was white I feel I should expect my attackers to be punished if a gang of whie trash thugs attacked and killled or injured some unfortunant black person.

Well, ...

I have seen cases where crimes against white people and asian people have been prosecuted as hate crimes, so I do not know what this person you quote is referring to.

And in case you doubt my perspective, then here is some data from the FBI which validates it:

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2010/november/hate_112210/hate_112210

 

[funk de fino]

http://youtu.be/Wm4ZTSOen0k This video addresses an interesting question. When non black races such as white people or asians are attacked because of their race ad ethnicity why isn't it classified as a hate crime?

I pride myself on not being racist but if I were attacked and injured because I was white I feel I should expect my attackers to be punished if a gang of whie trash thugs attacked and killled or injured some unfortunant black person.

You need to look harder next time.

 

[Luzz]

http://youtu.be/Wm4ZTSOen0k This video addresses an interesting question. When non black races such as white people or asians are attacked because of their race ad ethnicity why isn't it classified as a hate crime?

I pride myself on not being racist but if I were attacked and injured because I was white I feel I should expect my attackers to be punished if a gang of whie trash thugs attacked and killled or injured some unfortunant black person.

Maybe that´s because only a tiny percentage of racist attacks are against whites? Not sure about what kind of racial attact a white person could suffer.
Maybe whites suffer from discrimination at jobs centre, schools, etc. but that doesn´t count as racism, sorry.
Racists link skin colour to intelligence, morality, values, education, and we all know that blacks or brown people are attacked on those characteristics only because of their skin colour. Whites never have to suffer for such things.

 

[Ryokan]

Whites never have to suffer for such things.

I wouldn't say never. Maybe very rarely, but it happens.

And then of course there are gays, who are too often the victims of hate crimes, and they can just as likely be white as any other colour.

 

[sarge]

Maybe that´s because only a tiny percentage of racist attacks are against whites?

Not true, unless you re-define "tiny" to mean about 1/5th of all hate crimes.

Not sure about what kind of racial attact a white person could suffer.

The subject is "hate crimes", and whites can suffer exactly the same forms of hate crimes that any other racial/ethnic identity could.

Maybe whites suffer from discrimination at jobs centre, schools, etc. but that doesn´t count as racism, sorry.

Of course it counts as racism - although it may not consititute hate crimes.

Racists link skin colour to intelligence, morality, values, education, and we all know that blacks or brown people are attacked on those characteristics only because of their skin colour. Whites never have to suffer for such things.

Really? Whites are never assumed to have certain characteristics based soly on being white? Of course Whites can (and do) suffer racism.

Perhaps you meant that it is seldom that a white is in a sufficiently disadvantagous position for racism directed against him to matter?

 

[Checkmite]

http://youtu.be/Wm4ZTSOen0k This video addresses an interesting question. When non black races such as white people or asians are attacked because of their race ad ethnicity why isn't it classified as a hate crime?

I pride myself on not being racist but if I were attacked and injured because I was white I feel I should expect my attackers to be punished if a gang of whie trash thugs attacked and killled or injured some unfortunant black person.

Well, ...

I have seen cases where crimes against white people and asian people have been prosecuted as hate crimes, so I do not know what this person you quote is referring to.

And in case you doubt my perspective, then here is some data from the FBI which validates it:

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2010/november/hate_112210/hate_112210

Thanks.

Attacks against white people for being white have certainly been prosecuted as hate crimes.

OP, the person in your video probably never bothered to do any research, likely operating under a prejudicial assumption that it just never happens and building his argument on that.

 

[LSSBB]

Thanks.

Attacks against white people for being white have certainly been prosecuted as hate crimes.

OP, the person in your video probably never bothered to do any research, likely operating under a prejudicial assumption that it just never happens and building his argument on that.

I agree that attacks against white people have been prosecuted for hate crimes, however is there a dependable statistical source that shows whether or not there has been any bias in prosecution or conviction, either in the US, UK, or other countries having such legislation?

 

[Dessi]

http://youtu.be/Wm4ZTSOen0k This video addresses an interesting question. When non black races such as white people or asians are attacked because of their race ad ethnicity why isn't it classified as a hate crime?

It is. See table here.

In 2009, out of the the 3199 known racially motivated hate crime offenses last year, 915 (29% of them) involved anti-white, -Indian, -asian, or multiple race bias.

 

[LSSBB]

It is. See table here.

In 2009, out of the the 3199 known racially motivated hate crime offenses last year, 915 (29% of them) involved anti-white, -Indian, -asian, or multiple race bias.

Thanks, Dessi. In lazy mode now: Do you know if any studies been done correlating these statistics to any kind of selection bias in charging or convicting individuals with the crimes?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Maybe that´s because only a tiny percentage of racist attacks are against whites? Not sure about what kind of racial attact a white person could suffer.
Maybe whites suffer from discrimination at jobs centre, schools, etc. but that doesn´t count as racism, sorry.

I would count discrimination based on your skin colour as racism, yes.

 

[Luzz]

If racism is considered as a sub category of hate crimes, then yes, Whites would also be vulnerable individuals. Mostly based on sexual preferences but not skin colour.

 

[Checkmite]

I agree that attacks against white people have been prosecuted for hate crimes, however is there a dependable statistical source that shows whether or not there has been any bias in prosecution or conviction, either in the US, UK, or other countries having such legislation?

I can't find any references to any such data or analysis being collected or done.

 

[Bikewer]

It can be a difficult case to make. We have any number of "muggings" committed by black teens against our primarily-white students.
Normally, the exchange is something like... "Give me your wallet!"

The motive is profit, not racial hatred.

Now, we also have young blacks locally indulging in what they are calling "knock-out kings" or "the knockout game" where they randomly attack people.

Although the victims of these crimes are of ethnicity other than black, they do not get classified as "hate crimes" as they are just random victims and the perpetrators do not engage in language like "Kill whitey!" or something similar.

You have to show that racial hatred was the primary motivating factor in the crime, and that can be difficult. Even tossing around racial epithets can be seen as "heat of the moment" speech and not fall under the hate crime rubric.

 

[Debaser]

Although the victims of these crimes are of ethnicity other than black, they do not get classified as "hate crimes" as they are just random victims and the perpetrators do not engage in language like "Kill whitey!" or something similar.

Does that mean there have been no black victims?

Surely, unless you have no black students, then in 'random' attacks there would be a number of black victims? If none of the victims were black then that must by definition be non-random and a choice of victim is being made based on race?