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Who should control the internet?

Who should control the internet?

  • ICANN

    Votes: 12 41.4%
  • The United Nations should create a multinational organization.

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 11 37.9%

  • Total voters
    29

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TUNIS, Tunisia (AP) -- A summit focusing on narrowing the digital divide between the rich and poor residents and countries opened Wednesday with an agreement of sorts on who will maintain ultimate oversight of the Internet and the flow of information, commerce and dissent.

The World Summit on the Information Society had been overshadowed by a lingering, if not vocal, struggle about overseeing the domain names and technical issues that make the Internet work and keep people from Pakistan to Canada surfing Web sites in the search for information, news and buying and selling.

Negotiators from more than 100 countries agreed late Tuesday to leave the United States in charge of the Internet's addressing system, averting a U.S.-EU showdown at this week's U.N. technology summit.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,69592,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7

So who should control the net?

ICANN currently controls a big part of the net:

ICANN (pronounced "I can") is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. It is a California based non-profit corporation consisting largely of Internet Society Members, and was created on September 18, 1998 in order to take over a number of Internet-related tasks previously performed on behalf of the US Government by other organizations, notably IANA.

The contract for ICANN came from the US Department of Commerce and was "sole sourced", which means no-one else (such as the Open Root Server Confederation which was also formed at the time to bid on the contract) was able to submit a bid to perform the task. These tasks include managing the assignment of domain names and IP addresses. To date, much of its work has concerned the introduction of seven new generic top-level domains. Its activities, however, are very controversial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICANN
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The big challenge to ICANN control of the internet comes from:

The Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG) is a United Nations group set up after the failure of the 2003 World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) to agree on the future of Internet governance. It is a challenge to the role of ICANN, the United States organisation which currently oversees a large portion of Internet administration but actually only has a narrow technical remit. It usually takes only an advisory role, but many countries, particularly developing nations, are unhappy at the prospect of the U.S. maintaining control of the future of the Internet and have formed the WGIG as a more worldwide approach at management.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working...net_Governance

In general, the choices for a body to control aspects of the net involve:

Public/government organization versus private
Profit versus non profit
Regulation of content versus regulation solely of technical issues

I do NOT think that a multinational body should have anything, at all, to do with regulating the content of websites and who can access what. That would crash the internet as everyone knows it now and start non stop huge political fights over content.
 
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During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/

This message brought to you by the Al Gore for President of the Internet Campaign.;)
 
It's not the domain naming that's controversial it's the filters on content that nations like Saudi Arabia and China use. If they have more control over the internet they will try to filter it out BEFORE the site goes up.

Anyone that controls the domain names controls the content. If the naming body doesn't like your site content they will deny you a name until you change it. Very simple.

All countries restrict speech to some degree. Why would a nation like China not want to restrict internet content? They already do it.
 
The internet has been incredibly successful as governed. Unless someone provides a good reason to change the current scheme, it would seem like a really dumb idea. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It seems really strange that a major communication is controlled by ICANN. No one ever would have planned this but I think that is why the internet succeeded so quickly - lack of planning.

CBL
 
The internet has been incredibly successful as governed. Unless someone provides a good reason to change the current scheme, it would seem like a really dumb idea. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The US goverement felt the need to tell ICANN to kill the .XXX domain.
 
The internet has been incredibly successful as governed. Unless someone provides a good reason to change the current scheme, it would seem like a really dumb idea. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The US goverement felt the need to tell ICANN to kill the .XXX domain.
 
Ummmm....nobody? Why anybody control the internet. Why is a truly free exchange of ideas and information something that should be feared? The beauty of the internet, originally, is it represented the first time in history people were truly free to communicate with each other without governmental oversight. The notion of all this uncontrolled communication panics many people.
 
If the body governing the internet is not located in a nation that prohibits restrictions on internet content then obviously there will be restrictions.

If all the governing body does is assign names and maintain hardware for the internet then why do other countries care about controlling it?

I see dollar signs $$ that poor nations are missing out on as a reason for wanting control. Think of how much money is being passed around each day and they're not getting any.....
 
The US goverement felt the need to tell ICANN to kill the .XXX domain.

Yeah, but with Tipper Gore, I wouldn't have held my breath had the election gone the other way.
 
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The US goverement felt the need to tell ICANN to kill the .XXX domain.
That is a lot better than if the internet is control by a body with China as a member.

I am not defending this action, I am just saying it could be a lot worse.

CBL
 
That is a lot better than if the internet is control by a body with China as a member.

I am not defending this action, I am just saying it could be a lot worse.

CBL

Agreed. I'd rather live without .XXX domains than live without porn.

Oh, and that freedom of speech thing, too. Yeah, I'm all about that. Yay, freedom.
 
I'd rather live without .XXX domains than live without porn.
Do you know why .xxx domained was removed? It seems like puritans would love it because it would make it much easier to restrict pornography.

CBL
 
Do you know why .xxx domained was removed? It seems like puritans would love it because it would make it much easier to restrict pornography.

CBL

Dunno. My first impression is that the government doesn't like to acknowledge the painfully obvious fact that 99% of the internet is driven by porn (the remaining 1% being commerce on Amazon.com). Prudish, but consistently so. There's also the slippery slope idea- once one industry gets its own domains, what's stopping others from lobbying? It'd be the area code fiasco all over again.
 
Why stop at the internet? Currently, most important book publishing houses are found in the USA. I suggest that, in order to close the dangerous divide between book-rich western nations and book-poor third-world nations, the UN should set up a multinational organization that controls book naming and printing.

Hmmmm. Maybe it ain't such a hot idea, after all--even if it would be a lot easier to find The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in good editions once the UN takes over the book business.
 

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