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Web Site Plagiarism

logical muse

LogMu
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Some of you have seen this web site of mine:

http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/

It's about as simple as a web site can be, yet despite that it gets thousands of hits every day, people blog about it, it features in design reviews, and newspapers write articles about it.

Here's a screenshot:

d_original.png


Recently, I found this web site:

http://icantspelldefinitely.com/

Here's a screenshot:

d_ripoff.png


Look familiar?

It's a direct rip-off. Not only has he stolen the design and layout and content (and source code), he's added a story explaining why he made the site, which gives no credit to my original. In fact, he claims it's his own design and idea.

Now, I'm not that bothered, I think it's rather pathetic actually that he couldn't even come up with his own design. In the past, people have emailed me asking permission to make similar sites and I've been glad to grant it.

Of course, I was curious to find out who is behind this blatant rip off, so I did a whois, and found this:

Code:
Domain name: icantspelldefinitely.com

Registrant Contact:
   GospelLabs, LLC
   John Hamman ()

   Fax:
   6062 Mooretown Road
   Williamsburg, va 23188
   US

Administrative Contact:
   GospelLabs, LLC
   John Hamman (john.hamman@gmail.com)
   +1.7575613596
   Fax: +1.5555555555
   6062 Mooretown Road
   Williamsburg, va 23188
   US

Technical Contact:
   GospelLabs, LLC
   John Hamman (john.hamman@gmail.com)
   +1.7575613596
   Fax: +1.5555555555
   6062 Mooretown Road
   Williamsburg, va 23188
   US

Please note that this information is publicly available; just follow the whois link above.

Further investigation discloses that:
HELLO, I am John Hamman. I design websites, specialize in SEO and SEM. I am also a Google Adwords Professional.

His business websites, http://williamsburgdesign.com/ and http://www.gospellabs.com/ indicate that they are:
A Small Web Design and Internet Marketing Firm, based in Williamsburg Virginia Focuses on Web Design Services.
and
My name is John Hamman and I am the Founder of GospelLabs, LLC, an internet consulting firm in beautiful Williamsburg, Va. I have over 10 years of internet based design, marketing, and programming experience.

It turns that Gospel Labs is some kind of christian-based organisation, to the extent that a reference to religion is explicit in its name. One of its web sites is the Christian Life Center, a church in the same town as John Hamman.

So, I've been ripped off, and by, of all people, someone who appears to be a devout and practicing christian.

I've sent him an email. Let's see what he's got to say.
 
Sorry to see that logical muse. They get all their ideas from a old book and show little or no original thought. Still no original ideas then.
 
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This could be interesting. Yes, I've seen that, but for the life of me I can't say where in my internet travels.

Direct, shameless ripoff. You should be pissed. It's just so ...unaltered.
 
Shoot a DMCA notice at them. Be prepared to follow up, though.
 
Take some action at the very least in case any confusion cause you pain or injury in the future.

I suggest you download and save a copy of the code from the offending site in case it is taken down suddenly.

Spend the money to buy a postage stamp and send a letter suggesting you will take legal action if you are not provided compensation for your copyrighted work. Head the letter "Without Prejudice" so you can change your mind later.

Iamnotalawyerandwouldnotdaretopretendtobeone. ;)
 
I'm still waiting for a response to my email to him.

In the meantime, for those of you who are interested, here are some web sites that have mentioned my site recently:

From today's Canadian National Post newspaper -
Australian Steve Passiouras created d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com in defence of one of the most commonly misspelled words on the Internet -- the site now gets several thousand hits a day. It's often linked from discussion boards where people are fed up, he says, and he occasionally gets e-mails professing love from people thrilled to see someone taking a stand against the misuse of "defiantly" and "definately."

"It's just a couple of geeks having a bit of a laugh, really, but something so simple seems to inspire people," Passiouras says.
Grassroots groups fighting bad grammar on the Internet

From Wired magazine -
So-called single-serving Web sites — standalone pages that accomplish only one task — are popping up all over the Net. For example: islostarepeat.com offers Lost rerun alerts; d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com is a guide to spelling the word correctly; and amiawesome.com assures you yes, very.
Ask a Flowchart: How Do I Make a Single-Serving Site?

A web design blog -
Simple Web Design: 75 Sites Featuring Minimalist Interfaces

Another web design blog -
30 Examples of Extreme Minimalism in Web Design

A Japanese translation? -
http://q.hatena.ne.jp/1173962912
 
ICANTSPELLDEFINITELY.COM
Creation Date: 16-jun-2009

D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y.COM
Creation Date: 14-feb-2007

digg.com/odd_stuff/D_E_F_I_N_I_T_E_L_Y
Made popular Feb 23, 2007

Looking forward to hearing this persons response to your email! good luck
 
Muse,
You may be interested in the site youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com

It's a site dedicated to design ripoffs, including web design. Folks there have a lot of experience with confronting and pursuing this type of thing. You may want to post your situation there.
 
I just got an email reply.

He has apologised, and has taken down his site, and redirected his domain name to my site. Apparently it was one of his employees who made the site.

I'm pleased with the resolution. If you visit his domain name now, http://www.icantspelldefinitely.com/, it should take you to my site.

Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and support!

ETA: Oh, and welcome to the forum, Shade!
 
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ETA: Oh, and welcome to the forum, Shade!

:) thanks, I heard about it on the AFA forums, and thought I better check it out, unfortunately the username Davo was taken :\ heh looking forward to contributing here.

great news btw! :)
 
Hahah, I'm guilty of posting the link your website on more than one occasion. It was the example that made it stick in my head though. :)
 
Hahah, I'm guilty of posting the link your website on more than one occasion. It was the example that made it stick in my head though. :)

I didn't have that, or indeed any, example on the site at first. After RSL lost his domain name and moved his site to a new name, I thought it might help to link to it.

Interestingly, having an outgoing link has dropped my Page Rank somewhat, but I figure RSL's cause is greater than mine.
 
Oh that's a great outcome. In fact, I'm thinking that your email to him must have been excellent and diplomatic, any chance we could see it? Might serve as a benchmark for how to deal with such things (see the 'Skeptigirl' thread :D).
 

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