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Was it Sleep Paralysis

Lonewulf

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First, some background: I've recently been diagnosed with Bronchitis. I've been needing to take medication for about a week or so now, and I've been sick for about 3+ weeks. My medications include a Turbohaler, Codeine, and various pills that do FSM-knows-what.

Codeine has a side effect of making me sleepy, and I have to take it in the morning, afternoon, and evening. It makes me so sleepy, I end up getting little sleep, as I nap in the day and then can't sleep at night.

Well, last night, I could barely sleep; I had about 4 hours total, until it was time for school. I kept waking up every hour to half an hour or so (been a problem lately, don't know why). My mom is TDY, and has gone to the States, so I'm all alone in this house with a cat that loves to whine in the middle of the night because she misses her. Blah. Not fun.

Anyways... last night, I was about to activate one of my mini-sleeps, and I settled myself down... closed my eyes... and after a bit, something odd happened. Now, I feel that I was still awake, even though my eyes were closed (and couldn't open, really). I don't know if I imagined a voice and then heard it, or I heard the voice and then thought I just imagined it; but I heard a voice right next to my ear, which sounded much like a girl from my german-learning class. Now, here's the weird thing: The voice was crystal clear, as if it was existing outside of my body. Then, the voice traveled away, outside of my door, and down the stairs at surprising speed, upping it's pitch to nearly inhuman levels, sounding like a banshee out of hell.

I was kinda freaked out at this point, and I think I had goosebumps on my neck. But I couldn't bring myself to move. Then, the voice was right next to my ear again; this time, it was rattling off weird talk in a language that liked to roll it's "r"s a lot, but I doubt it said anything intelligible at all; I'm sure it was just my mind making up what sounded like a fitting language or somewhat. Now, the really weird thing: At this point, MY BED MOVED. I mean, it MOVED in just the same way you would expect it when someone was leaning over you, put their hand on your bed, and was using it to support their weight, and then had gotten up. The thing is, I never felt the bed depress; as in, I never felt the weight actually settle in, I just felt it "lift up".

After a few seconds after that, I opened my eyes and all was normal. The entire thing lasted, like, 2 minutes at most.

Is this a version of Sleep Paralysis?

If it is, I see why it can make believers. If I was living a few centuries ago, I'd be convinced that I just got visited by a ghost or demon.
 
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Have you considered 'cat allergy'? And definitely read the pamphlets regarding any side effects. Sounds like some sort of seizure, to me.
 
It sounds like it. Were you at all frightened during it? Did you feel your heart racing? I've had both visual and auditory-only episodes and yours certainly sounds like sleep paralysis. I used to mistaken episodes like these as visits from evil spirits when I was young. They are terrifying, even when I have them nowadays, although rare--thankfully. As far as your bed is concerned, are you saying that it really did move or are you settled with the fact that it was part of the hallucination?
 
I recently had pneumonia for two weeks and was also prescribed codeine cough syrup and I should add that I have dealt with sleep paralysis off and on for about 15 years.

It's kind of hard to say but you had a number of things going on that could contribute to your experience. The seizure thing seems kind of dodgy because you remember what happened.... Did you lose time, do you think? Anyhow, a good way to test the sleep paralysis theory is to see if you can move. Many people experience a trembling or vibrating sensation or a pressure on their chest at the onset. As for me I just wake up from a nightmare and keep experiencing it but in 'real life' only I can't move for a few moments. I've experienced it in the first few moments of falling asleep but usually only when I've been extremely tired.

Also, you have bronchitis which really depletes your energy as does codeine. Also, you may be sensitive to codeine. I know that when I'm sleep deprived (as I often am with respiratory infection) and take codeine I tend to experience auditory hallucinations especially when trying to sleep.

Anyhow, I hope this helps. I wish someone had told me years ago I was experiencing sleep paralysis because it can be terrifying. Instead I had a licensed therapist tell me I was psychic and being visited by ghosts. What's worse is she was treating me for PTSD. Gosh I hope her license has been revoked by now.
 
It sounds like it.
Jeez, that feels like saying that I had a headache, and someone suggesting I had a brain tumor... :eye-poppi

Were you at all frightened during it?

I'd say I was a little freaked out, yeah, but not panicking.

Did you feel your heart racing?
I don't think so. It was freaky, but not "OMG I WANT TO RUN AWAY" freaky.

I've had both visual and auditory-only episodes and yours certainly sounds like sleep paralysis. I used to mistaken episodes like these as visits from evil spirits when I was young. They are terrifying, even when I have them nowadays, although rare--thankfully. As far as your bed is concerned, are you saying that it really did move or are you settled with the fact that it was part of the hallucination?
The bed felt like it moved. It really did. I'm convinced that it was part of the hallucination, since for it to have moved that much someone would have had to have been there.

If it was a seizure, what could have caused it? That's a pretty big thing to claim, isn't it? I mean, it's something certainly worth seeing the doctor over, isn't it?
 
I recently had pneumonia for two weeks and was also prescribed codeine cough syrup and I should add that I have dealt with sleep paralysis off and on for about 15 years.
This is my first time, if it was sleep paralysis. I admit, I've wanted to experience sleep paralysis for a long time... while I was experiencing it (If it was sleep paralysis), though, I didn't want to experience it anymore. Now I wouldn't mind having it happen again, freaky or not.

It's kind of hard to say but you had a number of things going on that could contribute to your experience. The seizure thing seems kind of dodgy because you remember what happened.... Did you lose time, do you think?
Nothing significant, no. I tend to keep an eye on the clock whenever I'm up, and it's right there in front of me... I don't remember "losing" any significant amount of time. If an hour had passed by during the episode, I think I would have noted that.

Anyhow, a good way to test the sleep paralysis theory is to see if you can move.
To be honest, I'm not sure if I couldn't move because I was unable, or because I was unwilling. It's like I *wanted* to move, but at the same time, I *didn't* want to move. It's hard to explain. It's like having a hallucination that you both want to see, and yet don't want to keep seeing because you're a little freaked out.

Many people experience a trembling or vibrating sensation or a pressure on their chest at the onset.
I didn't experience anything like that, at all.

As for me I just wake up from a nightmare and keep experiencing it but in 'real life' only I can't move for a few moments. I've experienced it in the first few moments of falling asleep but usually only when I've been extremely tired.
Hmm... I didn't wake up from a dream. It felt more like I was about to fall asleep, and instead hallucinated or whatever.

Also, you have bronchitis which really depletes your energy as does codeine. Also, you may be sensitive to codeine. I know that when I'm sleep deprived (as I often am with respiratory infection) and take codeine I tend to experience auditory hallucinations especially when trying to sleep.
Hm, the codeine sounds like it might be the trick here, although this is the first time I've had auditory hallucinations since taking the Codeine... I've been taking it about a week now. 20 drops in morning, 20 in afternoon, 20 in evening. I hated the taste, so I put it in stuff like yogurt and applesauce.

Anyhow, I hope this helps. I wish someone had told me years ago I was experiencing sleep paralysis because it can be terrifying. Instead I had a licensed therapist tell me I was psychic and being visited by ghosts. What's worse is she was treating me for PTSD. Gosh I hope her license has been revoked by now.

Ditto. o.O
 
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Hallucinations are fairly common with codeine, it should be on the pamphlet from the pharmacy.
 
Oh I get those dreams all the time. Nothing to worry about.
Always just when I'm (subjectively) on the point of waking up
or nodding off (which incidentally is supposedly when the vast
majority of ghost "sightings" occur). I couldn't swear that I
was actually awake during any of these, not could I state
categorically that I was asleep.

I've had all sorts of weird auditory hallucinations. Voices saying clear
sentences right in my ear (sometimes the voices of persons I know),
knocking on my window (3 storeys up), the sound of things falling
on the floor apparently close to me (when nothing is there; eg, the
sound of a broomstick falling onto a stone floor - when my bedroom
has a lush carpet). I also sometimes get the feeling that "something"
is violently shaking my bed. Strangely, whenever it happens my attitude
seems to be more "Cool! An hallucination!" rather than "Aaagh!
aroint thee demon!"
I don't think these are actually "sleep paralysis"
(strictly defined), just dreams (ie. normal brain function).
 
Hallucinations are fairly common with codeine, it should be on the pamphlet from the pharmacy.

Hm, well, the pamphlet is in German, and I didn't want to bother translating it. :p
 
I'd say it's pretty obvious you didn't have a seizure (not that I'm a doctor but you'd probably notice biting your tongue or cheek or lips, etc and missing time and losing memories) so that's good. It could have been sleep paralysis because we're missing information on whether or not you could move. I suggest if it happens again you try to move your hand. When I experience SP it takes me quite a while (say, 30 seconds) just to move a finger, so you'll know right away if this is the case. As for the vibrating or chest pressure, I've never experienced that, either, and I'm damn glad. That sounds even more terrible than just the hallucinations. So far, though, it seems like the codeine + sleep deprivation was the culprit. You mention sleepiness several times in the OP. I just can't get over how many times I had similar experiences in the past couple of weeks. At one point I asked my husband why he was lying on his brother's grave (note: he doesn't have a brother) and I even entered a trance-like state while chatting with a friend online and for some reason I wrote something along the lines of "But I didn't ask him about the gator I sweaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" because I nodded off with my finger on the keyboard for a second. Codeine makes for a strange psychological state. I have no idea why people take it recreationally. Well, in the cough syrup form, at least.
 
The doctor suggested that Codeine was addictive. I'm not sure I want to be addicted to this stuff, though I admit, I wouldn't mind having another sleep paralysis... it's kinda cool to have weird stuff happen to me. But I'm weird like that.

BTW, my Codeine has run out this morning. There were only, like, 13 drops left, which I subsequently took.

I'll be going to the doctor tomorrow, as he said if I don't feel better, I should go back... I don't think my bronchitis is gone, at all. I still have a bad cough. I'll ask him to not refill my prescription for Codeine and explain my hallucination.
 
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Jeez, that feels like saying that I had a headache, and someone suggesting I had a brain tumor... :eye-poppi


My mistake. It took a while for me to reply to your OP and I hadn't realized manofthesea had mentioned a seizure. :)
 
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My mistake. It took a while for me to reply to your OP and I hadn't realized manofthesea had mentioned a seizure. :)

Oooooh, you were saying "sounds like it" over the sleep paralysis.

My mistake. :)
 
As my cold has moved into the "endless coughing that cannot be stopped" phase, I shall answer as there's sure as hell no way I'm getting back to sleep anytime soon.

It certainly sounds like sleep paralysis. I've had three episodes over the years with various similarities to yours.

In college, I had a weight jump onto the bed, pad up alongside me, and curl up on the pillow next to my head. This is exactly how my cat used to sleep, but the problem was my cat was some 300 miles away and most certainly not in my dorm room. I don't know if my inability to move was because I couldn't, or because I was desperate to figure out how to get the jump on large creature snuggled next to my head and not coming up with any really good ideas. The sensation of weight gradually faded, and when I finally looked nothing was there.[1] My latest one, early last year, involved a heavy weight settling on me and I was completely unable to move despite a great deal of trying, coupled with intense, bladder-emptying fear.[2] Given this, I find your interest in experiencing sleep paralysis rather... amusing. :eye-poppi

I'm still coughing. On to wikipedia!

Wiki's entry on Sleep Paralysis mentions sleep deprivation, increased stress, and some drugs as some of the potential causes. I see you're engaged in all three, so yes, you likely experienced such an episode. If you are truly concerned about it being a seizure, see your doctor.

OTOH, it is the holiday season. If Jacob Marley stops by, tell him Patch says "hi".


[1] For those with a supernatural bent, I called my mom the following day. The cat was alive and well, and most certainly hadn't died suddenly at 1:52am the previous evening.

[2] Which, thankfully, did not occur.
 
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I wish I only had 3 :( I've probably had hundreds. My first one happened when I was 9 and I woke up to spaceship lights outside my window and shadows moving about my room and I couldn't move. I only had a handful a year until maybe age 15 at which point I would get them between several times a night to several times a month. They died down a bit for a while during my late teens only to flare back up again in my early twenties. The one I had in Missouri where the therapist told me I was psychic was as follows: I was lulled from my sleep by a man's voice. He had a generic Native American accent (at this point I could see someone sitting at the side of my bed out of the corner of my eye though I couldn't move). He was speaking of the American government's atrocities against his tribe as it passed through the hills. To ensure his people couldn't escape the relocation process, all their horses were slaughtered and dumped in mass graves. As he said this I could hear the screaming of horses. Now, I don't know if any of you know what that sounds like but if you've ever heard a horse dying of colic you know it's excrutiatingly loud. It filled my ears until it hurt and I kept trying to move to get away from the noise and eventually I flung myself off the bed and at that point I could run out of the room. My ears rung for hours afterward. Was it the power of suggestion? Could be. Some kind of conversion disorder.... That's still the one that gives me chills to this day.
 
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The one I had in Missouri where the therapist told me I was psychic was as follows: I was lulled from my sleep by a man's voice. He had a generic Native American accent (at this point I could see someone sitting at the side of my bed out of the corner of my eye though I couldn't move).
Are you sure it wasn't Bob, from Twin Peaks?

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*ahem* sorry, for some reason your account reminded me of that. Not sure why, as it's totally different. :p

He was speaking of the American government's atrocities against his tribe as it passed through the hills. To ensure his people couldn't escape the relocation process, all their horses were slaughtered and dumped in mass graves. As he said this I could hear the screaming of horses. Now, I don't know if any of you know what that sounds like but if you've ever heard a horse dying of colic you know it's excrutiatingly loud. It filled my ears until it hurt and I kept trying to move to get away from the noise and eventually I flung myself off the bed and at that point I could run out of the room. My ears rung for hours afterward. Was it the power of suggestion? Could be. Some kind of conversion disorder.... That's still the one that gives me chills to this day.

That's kinda weird...

No actually, that's really darn strange. o.o
 
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Heh. Now I wish I'd watched Twin Peaks so I got the reference. =/

And, yeah, it's slightly weird but also our minds control our bodies. It's no weirder than someone with DID having a different allergy with a different personality or whatever that one disorder is where a woman believes she's pregnant and develops a pregnant-looking belly, etc. Considering all that, I'll stick with the ringing ears. :D


ETA: "Can you still hear the crying of the ponies, Kate..." That's going to haunt me, you realize.
 
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Next time I have sleep paralysis, I hope I hallucinate that a hot chick is on top of me...

Just, y'know, for flavor.

I don't mind if she looks a little demonic. I'm sure I can deal. :D
 
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