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War on Christmas

Bruce

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O'Reilly is onto us. Release the Hounds.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200511100014

O'REILLY: See, I think you're, I think you're crazy. And here's why. I think the backlash against stores that don't say "Merry Christmas" is enormous because now people are aware of the issue. There's going to be -- it's like the third or fourth year that we've reported it. I know everybody's hypersensitive about are they going to say "Merry Christmas"? Are they going to say "Happy Holidays"? What are they going to say? Are there decorations that say "Merry Christmas"? They're hypersensitive. And when you walk into a secular environment, most Christians are looking around, and they're really aware of it. Now, the other thing is, I don't believe most people who aren't Christian are offended by the words "Merry Christmas." I think those people are nuts. I think you're crazy if you're offended by the words "Merry Christmas."

NULMAN: Well --

O'REILLY: So you're basically only knocking out your nutty customers. And why do you want them anyway?

NULMAN: When businesses make decisions to be inclusionary as opposed to exclusionary, they do it on the basis of wanting to invite all customers in.

O'REILLY: But what --

NULMAN: They don't want to exclude customers --

O'REILLY: They are inviting all customers in --

NULMAN: What happens very often is that the message gets through to the customer that -- who is not Christian --

O'REILLY: Yes.

NULMAN: -- who is Muslim, who is Jewish, who's, who follows another faith, Buddhist, that they are not being invited in or catered to. When we counsel businesses, what we want to do is invite everyone in.

O'REILLY: Well, they --

NULMAN: "Season's Greetings" and "Happy Holidays," Bill, does not offend Christians.

O'REILLY: Yes, it does. It absolutely does. And I know that for a fact. But the smart way to do it is "Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Season's Greetings, Happy Kwanzaa."

NULMAN: It's a long list.

O'REILLY: It's OK, you've got a big store. You've got a big store.
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I like listening to O'Reilly's radio show, but when he gets going on this War on Christmas thing, I have to turn him off. He really starts sounding like a crackpot. :mad:
 
The stores are waging a war on christmas by starting their christmas shopping season at halloween.

If they are waging war, they are losing badly. Christmas is clearly winning.
 
what a nut. You would 'have to be crazy' to be offended by the phrase merry christmas, which excludes people, but its perfectly fine for christians to be offended by 'happy holidays' which includes everyone?
 
Bruce said:
O'Reilly is onto us. Release the Hounds.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200511100014



I like listening to O'Reilly's radio show, but when he gets going on this War on Christmas thing, I have to turn him off. He really starts sounding like a crackpot. :mad:
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If there is to be a war on Christmas, that would necessitate bombing the North Pole. Would that break up the ice pack and lead to rising sea levels? :eek: Would it kill innocent polar bears and seals?

Has anyone really thought this through?

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
If there is to be a war on Christmas, that would necessitate bombing the North Pole. Would that break up the ice pack and lead to rising sea levels? :eek: Would it kill innocent polar bears and seals?

Has anyone really thought this through?

DR
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Collateral damage! No one likes it, but sometimes it can't be avoided!

Nuke the old guy in the red suit!
 
This Guy said:
Collateral damage! No one likes it, but sometimes it can't be avoided!

Nuke the old guy in the red suit!
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If it will prevent me having to clean reindeer droppings from my roof, yet again, I say launch the alert SAC elements and have at him! :p

DR
 
I find it refreshing that someone, who many people seem to attack, has as much tolerance and understanding can take on such an important cause. BIll O'reilly is a self-professed practising catholic, yet he promotes a popular holiday that has its roots in paganism. He has presented his cause with well researched information and has always acted a gentleman when debating his side ....

Charlie (slighltly nutty on a Tuesday morning) Monoxide
 
Bruce said:
O'Reilly is onto us. Release the Hounds.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200511100014

I like listening to O'Reilly's radio show, but when he gets going on this War on Christmas thing, I have to turn him off. He really starts sounding like a crackpot. :mad:
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Yeah, because THAT'S when he starts to sound like a crackpot. Funny how the secularists are "hypersensitive" when it comes to being inclusionary and wishing "Happy Holidays" but the Christian-Supremacists are being perfectly sane and rational when they insist stores cater specificially to them by saying "Merry Christmas."

This is just another conservative B.S. issue. It's like how marriage is imperiled by non-traditional dude-dude weddings but not kitschy Fox T.V. shows like "Who wants to marry a Millionaire," or the umpteen Britney Spears 24 hour Vegas weddings. Idiot.
 
Bruce said:
O'Reilly is onto us. Release the Hounds.

I like listening to O'Reilly's radio show, but when he gets going on this War on Christmas thing, I have to turn him off. He really starts sounding like a crackpot. :mad:
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When he starts talking about christmas you get an idea of how he sounds to me 90% of the time. The other 10% of the time he is hawking one of his books or something like that to make more money. That is the only time he doesn't sound like a crackpot to me.

Daredelvis
 
daredelvis said:
When he starts talking about christmas you get an idea of how he sounds to me 90% of the time. The other 10% of the time he is hawking one of his books or something like that to make more money. That is the only time he doesn't sound like a crackpot to me.

Daredelvis
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Just the sort of opinion I would expect from you loony left liberal wacko pinheads!

:D
 
Here is an interesting episode of Skepticality, also from last year, in which Swoopy interviews Tom Flynn. He is the author of The Trouble with Christmas, which explains how there is hardly anything Christian about the December 25 holiday, especially after the Christians banned it.

http://skepticality.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=42236#

And as for the "war", the secular, commercial, late-December holiday that was invented by 19th century Britons and Usonians is not under threat.

I think the only problem left is the name. Change it and the argument will end. The Christians can still attend the "Christ's Mass" religious ceremony. The rest of us (which is most of us) can keep "Crimble" for everything else that it is.
 
Ah, the silly season is back. I can't believe O'Reilly is going to flog the war on Christmas yet another time. Even his true believers must get tired of the same old tune. I can't fathom the logic that claims it's right that Christians be offended by "Happy Holidays," but wrong that non-Christians feel excluded by "Merry Christmas."
 
Bruce said:
Just the sort of opinion I would expect from you loony left liberal wacko pinheads!

:D
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I see you left out pinko. I will have to turn in my card if anyone in my cell sees my post that you are reffering to.

As The Jerk said, "Ahhhh... Profit.".

Daredelvis
 
KingMerv00 said:
What gives Mr. O'Reilly the right to demand other people acknowledge his holiday?
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Because his is of course the one true religion, and all others must acknowledge it

And it is true that so much focus has been put on the commercial aspects of Christmas that people have lost touch with the true meaning of Christmas, drunken revelry
 
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