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Voter Fraud

Ed

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I just realized something. Anyone can register anywhere. There is no real check of identity and no requirement for proof of citizenship.

WTF?

Shhhhhhhh ... Don't tell the Democrats.
 
Australia has a national electoral commission, that is independent of the government. The polling booths are staffed by them. The rolls are managed by the one entity for the whole country. Any decisions are made by them, and they are not politically partisan, as they are not appointed by the government. They also manage the redistributions of electoral boundaries.

At least, that is the theory. In practice, it does work quite well, although governments like to interfere more and more in the workings of such independent bodies, eg, the Federal Police got a rap on the knuckles for saying the involvementin the Iraq war increased our chances of terrorist attack.
 
In Sweden you don't "register." The authorities already know whether you are eligible to vote, in which case you get sent a personalized "voting card" in the mail. You have to bring that and a valid ID when you go to your designated polling station.
 
In France, you have to register at the national voter's registry through the city hall, mayoral office, prefecture, consulate or embassy if you live abroad. You then receive a voter's card by mail. On polling day, you bring it together with a valid ID (national ID card or passport).
 
All British Citizens are entitled to vote (and they each have only the one vote with which to elect a candidate). They must be over the age of 18 and registered on the electoral roll. Citizens of Commonwealth countries or the Republic of Ireland who are resident in the UK can vote. British citizens living abroad can vote for up to 20 years after leaving the UK. the following are not eligible to vote: -
Members of the House of Lords
Patients detained under the mental health act
Sentenced prisoners (over one year)
People convicted within the last 5 years of corrupt or illegal electoral practises.

Elections are by secret ballot. Ballot papers are anonymous, to prevent undue influence on voters, and the ballot boxes are sealed to prevent electoral fraud. The stages of the electoral process are as follows:

Each voter (also called an elector) receives a form shortly before an election in their constituency (or ward, for local elections) and this gives the location of their polling station.
The card is presented to officials at the polling station, who check off the name of the voter against the electoral register and issue them with a ballot paper.
Electors vote by putting a cross on the ballot form against the name of the candidate they want to represent them and then placing the ballot paper in a sealed box. (Any other mark or comment on the paper renders it invalid.)
When polling closes, the ballot boxes are collected from each polling station in the constituency and taken to a central point.
There the seals are checked before the boxes are opened and the votes for each candidate are counted.
When the counting finishes, the results of voting in that constituency are announced by the returning officer, who declares the winner of the election.
 
tramper said:
All British Citizens are entitled to vote (and they each have only the one vote with which to elect a candidate). They must be over the age of 18 and registered on the electoral roll.

...snip...

When the counting finishes, the results of voting in that constituency are announced by the returning officer, who declares the winner of the election.
... and none of the people running the show are partisan politicians.
 
There is no voter fraud just bitter liberals who fear a strong Christian President.
 
No liberal wants to answer my charge? Fine, lol. I guess it proves it's true since no liberal wants to refute it.

I wonder, would liberals fear a President who worships zeus or vishnu? Nah, they only fear a Christian President because they truely fear the one True God deep down in their hearts.
 
tramper said:
...The card is presented to officials at the polling station, who check off the name of the voter against the electoral register and issue them with a ballot paper....

I understand that the electoral register (roll) is available for examination by anyone who wishes to do so.
 
1inChrist said:
No liberal wants to answer my charge? Fine, lol. I guess it proves it's true since no liberal wants to refute it.

I wonder, would liberals fear a President who worships zeus or vishnu? Nah, they only fear a Christian President because they truely fear the one True God deep down in their hearts.

If Bush wins now, your next president will be Hillary. God (i don't know which one) will punish you!

Anyway. In Estonia you will be sent a note by mail, which says where and when you will be voting. In polling station you'll have to show your ID and sign your name in the list. A person is listed only in one station, and he can't vote anywhere else. Lists are made according to data from Population Register.
 
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1inChrist is SO thick that he hasn't spotted the similarities yet...
 
1inChrist said:

I wonder, would liberals fear a President who worships zeus or vishnu? Nah, they only fear a Christian President because they truely fear the one True God deep down in their hearts.


They are false apostles and messengers looking like those who teach righteousness.(Cor.11:13-15)

"You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn... bushes... or figs from thistles? "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." (Matt. 7:15-20)

"Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace." Jesus said blessed are the peace makers. Those who bring the same message of reconciliation to have people make peace with God.(James 3:18)
 
1inChrist said:
No liberal wants to answer my charge? Fine, lol. I guess it proves it's true since no liberal wants to refute it.

You only allowed four minutes between your first post and your second, idiot. You'll burn in hellfire if you don't get some patience: Ecclesiastes 7:8 (although let's face it you've failed so comprehensively on the pride bit that you're going to be sucking down brimstone anyway).

Of course, the real reason nobody is arguing with you is that most people have put you on ignore.
 
tramper said:
They are false apostles and messengers looking like those who teach righteousness.(Cor.11:13-15)

"You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn... bushes... or figs from thistles? "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." (Matt. 7:15-20)

"Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace." Jesus said blessed are the peace makers. Those who bring the same message of reconciliation to have people make peace with God.(James 3:18)
I'm sorry, are you a real idiot or are you just pretending?
 
richardm said:
Of course, the real reason nobody is arguing with you is that most people have put you on ignore.

Ignore?

Rubbish. It does you good to laugh.
 
H3LL said:
I understand that the electoral register (roll) is available for examination by anyone who wishes to do so.

Quite correct.

A possible defect in the system is that it is not very difficult to get on the voter roll if you are a non citizen. But conversely any private individual, group, or official body suspecting fraud would find it pretty easy to carry out simple checks and alert the authorities.

As we elect MP's not a President or PM it is not really a problem to rerun an election in a constituency if widespread fraud could be shown to have occurred. I have never heard of it happening though.
 
Dr Adequate said:
I'm sorry, are you a real idiot or are you just pretending?


It depends on your definition, location, and possibly religious inclination. ;)
 
Karl/Flo -

What happens if you move before your voting card is mailed to you, and you don't notify the proper authorities?
 

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