Moderated Views on George Galloway.

[Zeuzzz]

Now this guys a controversial figure if I ever saw one. He has a razor sharp tongue, his oratory skills are near unrivalled, he holds very strong political opinions, he has been taken to court numerous times based on allegations by newspapers that turned out to be rubbish (they had to pay him compensation), he was accused by the senate of making money from the oil for food programme in Iraq, and was found innocent. He's been banned from canada as the Jewish Defence League decided he was a terrorist as he lead an aid convoy paid for by british citizens to the people in Gaza, giving them medicine, nappies, food, etc.

He's been around in british polotics a long time. There are so many accusations about him its unreal. But, when it comes down to it, I find that they are all either out of context quotes, or fabrications of some sort to smear him. Every time he puts his side of the story across he seems to have it pretty much bang on. He's very antiwar, and hates the US and UK for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. He is also a proponent of Palestine, and is not very fond at all of Zionism or Israeli military actions in Gaza.

My parents read Murdochs "The Times" newspaper here in the UK, and they say he's an 'evil man'. But could not say why, oddly. Maybe something to do with him ripping into Sky News' biased coverage of the Israel - Palestine conflict live on TV. He cant be Murdochs favorite person, for sure.

I personally think he's brilliant. One of the best poloticians in the UK at the moment. Never really heard him say anything I disagree with after you sift through the propeganda about him. Sure many people will disagree.

Opinions?

Heres some videos of him;

Canada ban: Galloway faces his accusers a Jewish Defence League (JDL) "Terrorist" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAm7rfHKSyY

George Galloway VS the Mainstream Media + US http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvdKyGjNSg0

George Galloway vs. U.S Senate (5/17/05) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk

For his full testimony at the senate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyyGoPerzWc

 

[Pardalis]

He's a ****.

(funny, the word "prick" is allowed, but not the c word...)

ETA: visual proof:

I rest my case.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Give a reason. Go on. I dare you.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Good old donald met sadam too.

George met sadam to speak about humanitarian issues and polotics. Donald rumsfeld and the US and UK went there to sell him guns and weapons of mass destruction. As he said in his testimony to the senate:

Transcript of his testimony: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article523583.ece

"As a matter of fact, I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld met him. The difference is Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns and to give him maps the better to target those guns. I met him to try and bring about an end to sanctions, suffering and war, and on the second of the two occasions, I met him to try and persuade him to let Dr Hans Blix and the United Nations weapons inspectors back into the country - a rather better use of two meetings with Saddam Hussein than your own Secretary of State for Defence made of his.

"I was an opponent of Saddam Hussein when British and Americans governments and businessmen were selling him guns and gas. I used to demonstrate outside the Iraqi embassy when British and American officials were going in and doing commerce.

"You will see from the official parliamentary record, Hansard, from the 15th March 1990 onwards, voluminous evidence that I have a rather better record of opposition to Saddam Hussein than you do and than any other member of the British or American governments do.

Try harder.

 

[Pardalis]

tu quoque

BTW, Rumsfeld is a dick too.

 

[Architect]

We get him in the press all the time. His problem, basically, is that he's up his own erse. And he's not so old Labour as to give up the villa in the sun or anything.....

 

[NWO Sentryman]

FDR & Stalin

Che & Mao

Chirac & Saddam

 

[Pardalis]

How much money did Galloway receive from the Iraqi mafia regime, while the sanctions were in place?

"Humanitarian issues" are very lucrative business I hear.

 

[Zeuzzz]

How much money did Galloway receive from the Iraqi mafia regime, while the sanctions were in place?

Not a penny. And he said so under oath. They would have found out if he had. It was all fabricated. You wont be able to prove it if the US govenment and intelligence cant my friend.

 

[Ziggurat]

I personally think he's brilliant.

He's moderately clever, but his particular brand of ass-hattery requires no great intelligence, and he displays none. He's reliably anti-west, and pro-any enemy of the west. That's his only standard.

Never really heard him say anything I disagree with

Then you don't think Hamas is a terrorist organization? You think that the assassination of the Prime Minister of the UK is justifiable? Have you really paid any attention to what this moral cretin actually says, or do you just like the knee-jerk leftist agitprop you've occasionally tuned in to?

 

[Zeuzzz]

"Humanitarian issues" are very lucrative business I hear.

With the recent scandals in the UK of MP's expenses I can absolutely guarantee that they will have checked his income extensively. A lot of people will want to have shown him to have made money illegally like half of the british MPs had.

They found absolutely nothing.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Galloway also compared Saddam to Stalin positively and is a Joke at the end of the day.

And the Picture does not explain all the Soviet and Chinese Hardware Saddam got.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Then you don't think Hamas is a terrorist organization?

No, they're the elected govenment, who have to defend themselves from Israeli agression frequently. I dont like Hamas, but I dont think they are terrorists any more than Israel is a terrorist state (if we are going by civilian deaths especially)

You think that the assassination of the Prime Minister of the UK is justifiable?

Wheres he said this? I think this is out of context...

Have you really paid any attention to what this moral cretin actually says

Yes, extensively. And he seems to make a lot more sense than most poloticians.

 

[WildCat]

George met sadam to speak about humanitarian issues and polotics. Donald rumsfeld and the US and UK went there to sell him guns and weapons of mass destruction.

This is not true.

The US sold Iraq no WMDs, nor even components of them.

If you were capable of a little research you'd find that the great bulk of chemical weapons precursors were supplied to him by Switzerland and Singapore and Italy, with the help of a Dutch businessman.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

No, they're the elected govenment, who have to defend themselves from Israeli agression frequently. I dont like Hamas, but I dont think they are terrorists any more than Israel is a terrorist state (if we are going by civilian deaths especially)

Israel does NOT itentionally target civilians.

Hitler was elected in 1933. Does that mean that he had to defend Germany from that Sole Polish Soldier.

"Israeli Aggression" - Explain all the missiles fired by Hamas.

Hamas are legally proscribed as terrorists by the EU and the US.

 

[Ziggurat]

No, they're the elected govenment

You say that as if those statements are mutually exclusive, but they are not.

who have to defend themselves from Israeli agression frequently.

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Lobbing missiles at Israeli schools and blowing up buses doesn't defend anyone.

Wheres he said this? I think this is out of context...

GQ interview. Not out of context at all. But as I suspected, you don't actually know the sort of stuff Galloway says, and what you do know of you accept rather uncritically

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[Zeuzzz]

Israel does NOT itentionally target civilians.

I know. But they do a pretty damn crap job of that dont they?!

They have a large army and miliary power. Hamas are like toy soldiers firing out of date and inaccurate weapons.

 

[WildCat]

Here's a montage of Galloway asshattery, where he makes it quite clear he is pro-Hamas:

 

[Ziggurat]

The US sold Iraq no WMDs, nor even components of them.

Technically that may not be true. We might have sold him chlorine, for example, and chlorine is a component of mustard gas. Of course, it's also rather useful in treating water to prevent diseases such as cholera.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Clue for the clueless: lobbing missiles at Israeli schools and blowing up buses doesn't defend anyone.

Likewise for Israel hitting schools in palestine. And every point you say like this I can likely counter with a similar Israeli action. Israel can at least target their weapons very accurately with their technology, yet still seem to be utterly crap at hitting their targets.