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Unrest in Budapest

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Protesters target Hungary state TV

Protesters have tried to storm Hungary's state TV station after Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany admitted that his party had lied to win an election.
Correspondents say protestors used stones to attack the TV HQ in the capital Budapest, demanding to be allowed to broadcast their grievances.

Police used tear gas to disperse the demonstrators.

Mr Gyurcsany's comments were heard in a tape of a meeting he had with his MPs a few weeks after the election in April.

Thousands have protested outside parliament since Sunday, calling for Mr Gyurcsany to resign.

During Monday night's demonstrations, at least one car was set on fire and demonstrators shouted "'56" in memory of Hungary's failed uprising against Soviet rule in October 1956.
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I wonder what the lies were? If he was keeping the economy afloat, the lie might have been, 'erm...we're not really socialist'.

Do we have an Hungarian insiders here?
 
Lied to win an election? That's child's play. How'd they like a government that lies to start a war?
 
Mr Gyurcsany's comments, which sparked the violence, were heard in a tape of a meeting he had with his MPs a few weeks after April's election, and leaked to local media on Sunday.

In excerpts broadcast on state radio, Mr Gyurcsany says harsh economic reforms are needed.

"There is not much choice. There is not, because we screwed up. Not a little, a lot. No European country has done something as boneheaded as we have.

"Evidently, we lied throughout the last year-and-a-half, two years... You cannot quote any significant government measure we can be proud of, other than at the end we managed to bring the government back from the brink. Nothing."

In a speech sprinkled with obscenities, Mr Gyurcsany says: "We lied in the morning, we lied in the evening."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5358546.stm

you can see why his comments have upset a few people :)

<cynic>Although, a default setting should really be to assume that politicians do nothing but lie - and for it to be news-worthy when in fact it's proved that they told the truth :) </cynic>
 
Cylinder said:
Protesters target Hungary state TV
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It's a surprise - though understandable - that the people are angry at a political leader who, for the first time, is telling the truth: that the whole political class was lying.
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Oh sweet irony, thy name is Hungary. Or anywhere, really.

The PM lies for a while, he keeps the mob quiet. He tells the truth, even a mea culpa, and he gets a riot. That's called negative reinforcement. What incentive does any politician have to tell the truth, if the lie keeps the sheep quiet and the truth makes the sheep mad?

This is a problem for not just Hungary, eh?

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
What incentive does any politician have to tell the truth, if the lie keeps the sheep quiet and the truth makes the sheep mad?
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Hmmm.... I think the public is trying to persuade him to do is tell the truth just before a general election, rather than just afterwards.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Oh sweet irony, thy name is Hungary. Or anywhere, really.

The PM lies for a while, he keeps the mob quiet. He tells the truth, even a mea culpa, and he gets a riot. That's called negative reinforcement. What incentive does any politician have to tell the truth, if the lie keeps the sheep quiet and the truth makes the sheep mad?
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We may go to war with Iran over the nukes thing. This is politically much more palatable than, while he's in New York, just offing the offending head of the country, to much of the world, including the Iranians. Don't bother to understand it.
 
Beerina said:
We may go to war with Iran over the nukes thing. This is politically much more palatable than, while he's in New York, just offing the offending head of the country, to much of the world, including the Iranians. Don't bother to understand it.
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Now we see why beer was invented. So this stuff would make more sense.

DR
 
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