UK General Election on 5th May - voting intentions?

Rolfe

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Since I had extreme issues with the earlier poll on this subject (and if had the wrong date anyway), I thought I'd start one of my own.

I've tried to include all parties which will be represented in a significant number of seats (thanks, Geni, for the list), apologies if I've omited anyone's favoured choice.

Rolfe.
 
Yippee! I got in so quick the SNP has 100% of the one vote cast!.

Well, that won't last.....

Rolfe.
 
Just a quick point for everyone - remember a vote for anyone but Conservative or Labour is a wasted vote... :)
 
I'm torn. At one point I was thinking about voting Tory (more as an anti-Labour protest over some of their policies than because I think Howard will be one of the great British PM's).

Then that d*mn Catholic Archbishop came on the News about a week ago urging all catholics to vote against Labour (due to their abortion stance). Now I want to vote for Labour to kick the Catholics* in the teeth for interfering in politics!

Aargh! So many parties to vote against, and only one vote!



* Nb; the same would go for any religion jumping into the political fray.
 
Giz said:
I'm torn. At one point I was thinking about voting Tory (more as an anti-Labour protest over some of their policies than because I think Howard will be one of the great British PM's).

There are other parties to vote for to make an anti-Labour protest without lowering yourself that far ;)
 
I didn't try it, but I note that the first three parties have come out with the correct colour codes!

By the way, that bunch of Yogic Flying twits aren't going to stand again, are they?

Rolfe.
 
I am at the nearest I've ever been for not voting Labour. I believe they have gone too far to the centre/right over the last few years.

However I have no evidence that the Conservative party have changed from when they last held power and that will, in my opinion, mean a return to under funding the NHS, under funding state education, under funding the Police, further reducing the value of the state pension and yet more interference in personal liberties. (And if they went back to their old economic policies it would end up meaning spending even more on social security – just like Thatcher and Major had to! Mind you they would probably increase subsidies to the Rover group just like Thatcher did for British Leyland…)

As for increasing money on school dinners for kids, this is the party that brought you "Thatcher the Milk Snatcher" ;) :)
 
richardm said:
There are other parties to vote for to make an anti-Labour protest without lowering yourself that far ;)

Let's be blunt about this (in England especially) a protest vote from Labour to any other party is a vote for a Conservative government.
 
Rolfe said:
I didn't try it, but I note that the first three parties have come out with the correct colour codes!

By the way, that bunch of Yogic Flying twits aren't going to stand again, are they?

Rolfe.

Natural Law party? Probably.
 
Are you sure Darat? Labour's rhetoric is quite center/right but I would have called them center/left/big govt in practice.

Rest assured the Tories have changed: Hague, IDS, Howard. Can you not tell them apart?
 
Darat said:
Let's be blunt about this (in England especially) a protest vote from Labour to any other party is a vote for a Conservative government.

Or, more accurately, a Labour government with a smaller majority.

Surely nobody believes the Tories are actually going to win?
 
Giz said:
Are you sure Darat? Labour's rhetoric is quite center/right but I would have called them center/left/big govt in practice.

I would say no more so then the last Conservative governments. Indeed the Labour government has continued to deregulate areas such as financial services - and don't forget it was a Labour government that gave the Bank of England independence.


Giz said:

Rest assured the Tories have changed: Hague, IDS, Howard. Can you not tell them apart?

Er two of them were bald? You'll have to give me a clue...
 
Jaggy Bunnet said:
Or, more accurately, a Labour government with a smaller majority.

Surely nobody believes the Tories are actually going to win?

It doesn't take that many votes in the UK to change a government. Whilst I don’t think the Conservatives are likely to win, because they are “voted in”, I have a terrible and frightening feeling they may win because people won’t go out and vote for Labour. And by that I mean people who voted last time for Labour won’t go out and vote for the Conservatives they just won’t go out and vote.
 
Darat said:

Er two of them were bald? You'll have to give me a clue...

Only two of them? (I guess I should have used a smiley...)

Howard is a (small) step towards a less follically challenged leadership. And Dilbert teaches us that the taller candidate with better hair will always win... why worry about their policies?
 
Giz said:
Only two of them? (I guess I should have used a smiley...)

Howard is a (small) step towards a less follically challenged leadership. And Dilbert teaches us that the taller candidate with better hair will always win... why worry about their policies?

That’s another good reason to not vote for Mr “Something of the night”. At least Hague and IDS were honest about their baldness, Howard attempts a comb-over rather then admit the truth – he’s already covering up!
 
Jaggy Bunnet said:
Surely nobody believes the Tories are actually going to win?

Well, I'd hope not but I wouldn't like to start counting any chickens just yet. Darat's right - inertia is probably the biggest problem Labour face this time round. I saw Peter Snow at lunchtime and he reckons it's a worryingly small swing to get a hung parliament. Something like 6%. Well, the Labour result in 1997 was 10.2%, so it ain't impossible if things go badly.

I see someone has voted Conservative in the poll. Want to discuss what's attractive about 'em to you? This is a politics forum after all!

(Edited to add: Although I suppose 1997 was an exceptional year)
 
Rolfe said:
Yippee! I got in so quick the SNP has 100% of the one vote cast!.

Well, that won't last.....

Probably not 100%, but I should think the SNP are likely to improve on last time. Unless the redrawing of the constituencies has put the kibosh on them. How is the party feeling?
 
Rolfe said:
Yippee! I got in so quick the SNP has 100% of the one vote cast!.

Well, that won't last.....

Rolfe.
SNP? - Have they got a chance in Sussex? :p
 
richardm said:
Probably not 100%, but I should think the SNP are likely to improve on last time. Unless the redrawing of the constituencies has put the kibosh on them. How is the party feeling?
I'm not picking up on rejoicing in the streets quite yet. I think we still haven't quite figured out what to do with the Scottish Parliament, and the lack of apparent effect in dealing with the Labour knuckle-dragging brigade there has people sort of reeling in frustration. Plus of course there is the problem of some people now seeing the SNP as the party you vote for in Scottish elections but not in Westminster elections.

It's a strange situation, because policy-wise the SNP looks on the face of it to be the party desired by all those who don't like the direction Labour has taken in recent years, and many of my English friends say they'd vote for the SNP on its general policy stand if they got the chance.

However, we still haven't got to grips with the belittling of Scotland and the Scottish people carried out for years by the Westminster parties in Scotland. We're too small, too stupid and too poor to be self-governing, you see. Just like Denmark, you know.... And now of course they point to McConnell and the rest of those neuronally-challenged Holyrood toon cooncillors and say, we told you so. While at the same time I hear bitter complaints in England that "we're ruled by Scots"! I'm no great fan of Gordon Brown, Robin Cook and the rest of them, but they are big hitters, and if we could put people of that calibre into an independent Scottish parliament it would be a different story.

I don't expect a landslide this time. Actually, much as I hate the idea of a Conservative government, it would be very interesting to see what happened to Scottish politics with them in Westminster and Labour in Holyrood. It's arguable that if we'd got the Scottish parliament in 1979 as we ought to have, the Thatcher years would have delivered independence.

Right at the moment though, the hereditary "vote for a gerbil if it's got a red rosette on it" brigade are probably not going to stage a mass revolution. The ingrained class loyalties (plus the effects of decades of their preferred comic, the Daily Record, sneering at the SNP and telling a pack of lies) are likely to rally round if it looks as if the Tories might be making any sort of showing.

Still, I'm hoping for a decent result to keep credibility good, and look for a bigger push at the 2007 Holyrood event. Also, I believe Sheridan's lot aren't making much of a showing these days, which helps somewhat. (That's one I didn't put on the ballot, maybe I should, I'll probably get a posse of SSP supporters starting a rival poll!)

Rolfe.
 
Dragon said:
SNP? - Have they got a chance in Sussex? :p
Postal votes are a great invention.

(Actually, there was a story.... A few years ago a Scottish-born town councillor in Brighton fell out with his local Labour party and announced that he was leaving and joining the SNP. It was all over the papers that the SNP now had a council seat in Brighton. But they didn't. Unbeknownst to the councillor, there is an active branch of the SNP in London, and the Convener just happened to live in Brighton. (And also to be an ex-Labour party activist.) He tried to phone the guy several times, and even called at his house, explaining who he was and trying to welcome him into the SNP. The man's wife gave him the brush-off and the runaround, and it was perfectly clear that the whole thing had been nothing but a publicity stunt, he'd had no intention at all of joining the SNP, and was astonished to find that there was an active branch on his doorstep.)

Rolfe.
 

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