Tulsi, Tulsi, Tulsi :(

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I had so much hope, was willing to forgive her past transgressions, as she really showed that she was hearing what was going on with the tech monopolies, even to the point of appearing on Rogan.

Like all the good, bipartisan parts of McCain, without the ....well, McCain part of it

Around here our biggest concerns with Tulsi weren't the anti-gay stuff she did as a teen (at the time you wouldn't last 5 minutes on the street gay bashing in hawaii, and probably wanted to be able to go outside sometime), it was the fact that she pandered

HARD

She would pander to the anti-science crowd again and again to the point where even the pro science people had to vote republican

She pandered to the anti-evolution side in education

She pandered to the anti-vaxxers. The legacy of that on Maui for instance, is insane

She pandered to the anti-GMO nuts to the point where they got hawaiians to vote to make their traditional foods illegal

Its not even like she was pandering to her local base, the people whipping this stuff up were your typical california, seattle left wing science deniers, the typical anti-gmo anti science nuts.

Hawaii has a conformity problem that most people wouldn't believe unless they've been here, where the people most reliant on the federal government for food march in lock step with whatever their "cultural leaders" (actually no such thing, as again ,most of these are from california) say....If one guy wears a shirt, they ALL wear that shirt. If the one guy punches someone, they ALL mob him.

The latest dustup has these californians telling the gullible mobs that someone is going to put nuclear powered telescopes on a mountain and use "the aquifer" that everyone drinks from (there is no one aquifer, only oahu is like that) for cooling and all the water will be poisoned.

First they just blocked the roads....nevermind that hawaii is 50th in education or any measure of intelligence, we NEED as much science as we can get. Then the violence, as usual, just like in the cases of vaccines and gmos started.

And now Tulsi has endorsed and pandered to them

I am sooooo bummed. Like betrayed. She really felt right.

Lets hope they let Yang run
 
I assume this alludes to 'Tora, tora, tora". But for those of us who don't live in Hawaii could you explain what Tulsi means? Is it Hawaiian? Is it a person, could you link to an article, or give a full name, or position?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard

She's a Representative from Hawaii who was making enough sense that the corporate democrats wanted to stomp her. Probably most in the news right now for suing google over blocking her ads right at the critical point in the 2020 presidential race

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/technology/tulsi-gabbard-sues-google.html

She was willing to ditch tribalism in order to get things done and actually communicate with the American people, regardless of party.

She has a lot of dirty laundry that she seemed willing to rise above and a lot of us wanted to give her a chance, but youch.
 
No, there were plenty who were willing to back Obama's anti-science banning of smoking cessation products
 
I like Tulsi.

The crowd she attracts includes some if the most arrogant, self righteous, counterproductive conspiracy mongers who are quick to attack fellow progressives if they so much as bring up her name.
 
Gee it would be too bad if she drops out. We'd only have, like, maybe 27 other candidates to choose from?*

*I'm a registered Democrat, and I think this is ridiculous. At least 22 of these people are no-chancers.
 
I had so much hope, was willing to forgive her past transgressions, as she really showed that she was hearing what was going on with the tech monopolies, even to the point of appearing on Rogan.

Like all the good, bipartisan parts of McCain, without the ....well, McCain part of it

Around here our biggest concerns with Tulsi weren't the anti-gay stuff she did as a teen
You left out the fact she has reversed positions on this and has apologized for her former stance.

(at the time you wouldn't last 5 minutes on the street gay bashing in hawaii, and probably wanted to be able to go outside sometime), it was the fact that she pandered

HARD

She would pander to the anti-science crowd again and again to the point where even the pro science people had to vote republican,
Evidence?

She pandered to the anti-evolution side in education
Evidence?

She pandered to the anti-vaxxers. The legacy of that on Maui for instance, is insane
Evidence?

She pandered to the anti-GMO nuts to the point where they got hawaiians to vote to make their traditional foods illegal
Evidence for both?

Its not even like she was pandering to her local base, the people whipping this stuff up were your typical california, seattle left wing science deniers, the typical anti-gmo anti science nuts.

Hawaii has a conformity problem that most people wouldn't believe unless they've been here, where the people most reliant on the federal government for food march in lock step with whatever their "cultural leaders" (actually no such thing, as again ,most of these are from california) say....If one guy wears a shirt, they ALL wear that shirt. If the one guy punches someone, they ALL mob him.

The latest dustup has these californians telling the gullible mobs that someone is going to put nuclear powered telescopes on a mountain and use "the aquifer" that everyone drinks from (there is no one aquifer, only oahu is like that) for cooling and all the water will be poisoned.

First they just blocked the roads....nevermind that hawaii is 50th in education or any measure of intelligence, we NEED as much science as we can get. Then the violence, as usual, just like in the cases of vaccines and gmos started.

And now Tulsi has endorsed and pandered to them
What is your evidence she has endorsed the nutty position you describe? Se has gone on record as supporting the protestors over their belief Mauna Kea is sacred, saying "there are spiritual and cultural issues that are being ignored." There is no evidence she believes the telescope is nuclear powered and will contaminate the groundwater several hundred metres below.

I am sooooo bummed. Like betrayed. She really felt right.

Lets hope they let Yang run

Overall this post sounds quite hysterical. It's long on rhetoric and short on facts. True, that's par for the course for the politics section, but this is also supposed to be a skeptics' board. It would be nice to some overlap every once in a while. :)
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard

She's a Representative from Hawaii who was making enough sense that the corporate democrats wanted to stomp her. Probably most in the news right now for suing google over blocking her ads right at the critical point in the 2020 presidential race

There was no critical point in the 2020 presidential race for Tulsi. She's kind of the Ron Paul of the Democrats.
 
Just read the tribalism in this thread if you want to wonder why trump won 2020

What?

Asking for evidence is not a symptom of tribalism. You posted five claims that you didn't back up. Remember, "That which is alleged without evidence can be rejected without evidence." Unless you can back up your claims the default reaction should be to ignore them.

Sadly, way too many people regardless of their politics are far too willing to accept unsubstantiated claims over established facts.
 
... She has a lot of dirty laundry that she seemed willing to rise above and a lot of us wanted to give her a chance, but youch.
How about you provide evidence of this dirty laundry?

I quickly looked up your claim that she was (is?) anti vax and didn't see any evidence of that.

Since you're quick to presume that challenges amount to tribalism, I'll share with you that my impression of Gabbard isn't very positive.
 
The telescope controversy is worthy of its own thread. I looked and couldn't find one. Is there one I haven't found?
 
I first heard of her when she did an early town hall even on CNN. Same one at Buttagieg in it and I had not heard of him before that either.

From what I can remember she evaded just about every question asked of her. Not a fan after that.
 

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