Triangle shaped UFO's

[sloinker]

Seeing as there have been many sightings of these triangular shaped craft around the world, many mass sightings such as Phoenix and Belguim, I have a question. I think there is something being seen. I believe they are earth based craft, military use,probably made in the good ole USA. My question concerns propulsion. Most witnesses speak of different colored lights on the craft. Why would a secret government craft light itself up for the general public. Is it possible these lights are the propulsion system and what type of propulsion system uses visible light?

 

[theprestige]

Once you account for all the airplanes seen at night, when only their running lights are visible, and people overlook the dimmer ones so that they report three lights making a "triangular" craft...

... and you account for all the groups of three airplanes seen at night, when only their running lights are visible, and forming a triangle--as groups of three things always do...

... and you account for all the rumors and rumors of rumors--like your OP itself--which lack enough verifiable detail to even justify speculation in the first place...

... I think you'll find there's nothing left that needs to be explained by a conspiracy theory about exotic visible light propulsion systems.












Put it another way: Some of them are "probably made in the good ole USA", and the rest are probably Airbus.

 

[Hokulele]

A surprising number of triangle-shaped UFOs turn out to be ...


... flocks of birds.

When a flock of birds is lit from below, they can resemble points of light around the edges of a single, triangular object. Phil Plait recounts making this mistake in his book, Bad Astronomy.

 

[SezMe]

Seeing as there have been many sightings of these triangular shaped craft around the world, many mass sightings such as Phoenix and Belguim, I have a question. I think there is something being seen. I believe they are earth based craft, military use,probably made in the good ole USA. My question concerns propulsion.

First you have to ascertain whether propulsion is involved at all. For example, the second set of sightings in Phoenix that you cite were flares for which no propulsion is involved. Lights are not the same as propulsion.

Most witnesses speak of different colored lights on the craft. Why would a secret government craft light itself up for the general public. Is it possible these lights are the propulsion system and what type of propulsion system uses visible light?

Afterburners. Well, they don't use visible light but they do show visible light.

 

[Iamme]

To answer the OP...the Batmobile used light propulsion. A rocket engine. Lol.
So did NHRA rocket dragsters that would challenge typical blown cylinder engines.

 

[Donn]

I recently found a really interesting document here. (1.9 Mb PDF)
[Copy made here.]

It's in relation to the Belgium "wave" of UFO's.

But I especially noticed that an explanatory track, that of helicopters, seemed to be left aside by SOBEPS as well as by the majority of the other searchers who looked into this wave. In this article, I propose to re-examine some sightings in the light of this hypothesis. I shall show that most of them probably are only mistakes generated by military helicopters (be they Belgian, American, German or Dutch).

It's a pretty interesting and thorough work.

 

[Wolrab]

A surprising number of triangle-shaped UFOs turn out to be ...


... flocks of birds.

When a flock of birds is lit from below, they can resemble points of light around the edges of a single, triangular object. Phil Plait recounts making this mistake in his book, Bad Astronomy.

As I've posted way too many times, if the geese hadn't circled around and started honking, I would, to this day, be absolutely sure my friends and I had seen a large, solid triangular craft. Nothing has ever brought home to me how the brain can fool itself as this one experience.

 

[catsmate]

I'm reminded of the 'Airship Panics' of 1895-7 (USA & Canada), 1899 (South Africa), 1909 (UK, USA, Australis), 1912-13 (UK) et cetera. People seeing things in the air that aren't there.
More here.

 

[MG1962]

A surprising number of triangle-shaped UFOs turn out to be ...


... flocks of birds.

When a flock of birds is lit from below, they can resemble points of light around the edges of a single, triangular object. Phil Plait recounts making this mistake in his book, Bad Astronomy.

I have actual seen this - First time was what the hell - then I heard the honking of the birds and thought - Yeah nature you got me - good one lol

 

[Donn]

Nice link Catsmate1, thanks.

 

[Wolrab]

I have actual seen this - First time was what the hell - then I heard the honking of the birds and thought - Yeah nature you got me - good one lol

My friends and I were discussing details of the craft when they started honking.
Imagine that, details of a ship made up of geese in two lines with nothing in the middle!

 

[Crossbow]

Seeing as there have been many sightings of these triangular shaped craft around the world, many mass sightings such as Phoenix and Belguim, I have a question. I think there is something being seen. I believe they are earth based craft, military use,probably made in the good ole USA. My question concerns propulsion. Most witnesses speak of different colored lights on the craft. Why would a secret government craft light itself up for the general public. Is it possible these lights are the propulsion system and what type of propulsion system uses visible light?

Ummmm, ...

Have you also noticed how the shape and/or descriptions of UFOs changes so much over time?

People used to say that UFOs were witches riding on flying broomsticks.
Later, people used to say that UFOs were giant airships built by some mystery rich guy.
Later, people used to describe UFOs as 'saucer shaped' objects.

And now, people say that UFOs are triangle shaped objects.

And by the way, while lights could be used as a propulsion system, however such a ssystem is not very practical for aircraft. However, military aircraft often used colored lights for various purposes such as non-radio communications, therefore one should not be surprised to learn that the UFO in question was actually some component of a military exercise.

 

[catsmate]

Ummmm, ...

Have you also noticed how the shape and/or descriptions of UFOs changes so much over time?

People used to say that UFOs were witches riding on flying broomsticks.
Later, people used to say that UFOs were giant airships built by some mystery rich guy.
Later, people used to describe UFOs as 'saucer shaped' objects.

And now, people say that UFOs are triangle shaped objects.

And by the way, while lights could be used as a propulsion system, however such a ssystem is not very practical for aircraft. However, military aircraft often used colored lights for various purposes such as non-radio communications, therefore one should not be surprised to learn that the UFO in question was actually some component of a military exercise.

Exactly. It's a psycho-cultural phenomena. In the 1892-1918 period it was strange cigar-shaped airships, because people had awareness of actual airships. Late it was phantom aeroplanes, then the flying saucers and now it's delta shapes.

 

[ShadowSot]

Obviously ufo technology has improved over time.

 

[sloinker]

So the consensus is there is no triangular shaped craft with lights being observed.
Top fuel dragsters and jet engines using afterburners have a side effect of coherent light but it's not the means of energy used for propulsion. Light in the visible spectrum to be used as a means of locomotion would have to somehow stream photons in a directional force in a massive way if I understand the physics.
BTW, many of the witnesses who observed the Phoenix triangle lights were familiar with military flare patterns and stated flatly they weren't flares. Probably those dastardly night flying geese I suppose.

 

[MG1962]

My friends and I were discussing details of the craft when they started honking.
Imagine that, details of a ship made up of geese in two lines with nothing in the middle!

I had read many times people describing this phenomena and I always thought - you got to be stupid to fall for that!!!

Well color me stupid lol

And if you are predisposed to - something I don't understand must be alien technology - you see how the mind just runs with it

 

[Crossbow]

So the consensus is there is no triangular shaped craft with lights being observed.
Top fuel dragsters and jet engines using afterburners have a side effect of coherent light but it's not the means of energy used for propulsion. Light in the visible spectrum to be used as a means of locomotion would have to somehow stream photons in a directional force in a massive way if I understand the physics.
BTW, many of the witnesses who observed the Phoenix triangle lights were familiar with military flare patterns and stated flatly they weren't flares. Probably those dastardly night flying geese I suppose.

Well, the light produced by jet after-burners is not coherent. Light from a Laser is coherent, but light that is the product of a combustion process (such as in a jet engine, burning paper, a candle, etc.) is not coherent.

As for using light as propulsion, then I expect that you are essentially correct; one would have to find some way to safely push out vast amounts of photons in a given direction in a very short space of time. However, I do not think that such a thing is possible.

Also, since you say that this event is occurring in Phoenix, then you may recall that several years ago there was a big UFO scare in Phoenix which turned out to be a group of military planes doing a night in-flight refueling exercise. Which is very interesting, but hardly extra-terrestrial in origin.

Accordingly, I would not be surprised if something similar is occurring now and that is why one is seeing some UFO reports in this same area.

 

[Black Hole Box]

To answer the OP...the Batmobile used light propulsion. A rocket engine. Lol.
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Not very reliable though. It once lost a wheel, allowing an international criminal to get away.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Not very reliable though. It once lost a wheel, allowing an international criminal to get away.

Shell Oil or Monsanto?

 

[Monza]

So the consensus is there is no triangular shaped craft with lights being observed.
Top fuel dragsters and jet engines using afterburners have a side effect of coherent light but it's not the means of energy used for propulsion. Light in the visible spectrum to be used as a means of locomotion would have to somehow stream photons in a directional force in a massive way if I understand the physics.
BTW, many of the witnesses who observed the Phoenix triangle lights were familiar with military flare patterns and stated flatly they weren't flares. Probably those dastardly night flying geese I suppose.

There were two separate incidents that comprise the 1997 Phoenix Lights. The second incident was a series of flares. The first incident, a triangular set of lights moving across the valley, was not. For those who were actually able to view the lights with the proper telescopic equipment, such as amateur astronomer Mitch Stanley, it was possible to see what the source was... planes in formation. This "mystery" was solved almost immediately.