I keep hearing this argument. From who? From people who want to claim israel is weak? No. From people who want to claim israel is pathetic? No. From people who want to claim israel is MORALLY inferior: a "parasite", an "annoyance", and so on.
Fine, without the US there will be no israel. And without the police coming to the house to stop an attempted murder, Ms. Jones would be dead now. And without modern medicine, Mr. Smith would be dead by now. What on earth does that have to do with Ms. Jones or Mr. Smith's morality? Can you imagine the defense lawyer in court: "Oh, c'mon, Ms. Jones, how can you claim you're morally better than my client? If the police had not come to save you from him, you'd be dead by now!". How about the doctor: "you really want me to treat Mr. Smith? He's such an awful person--why, he'd be dead by now if it wasn't for us! What a parasite!"
The whole thing is bizzare on for at least three different reasons
First of all, it equates weakness with moral inferiority--although, of course, ONLY when it comes to the jews; when any other group of people is weak and requires protection, they deserve pity and help, not contempt and demands that they should shut up because they "wouldn't exist if it wasn't for...".
This is fascism, pure and simple, in its starkest form: the belief that right equals might, and, conversly, that weakness is a moral fault. And who does it come from? The same people who claim to be the most anti-fascist and claimed to identify with the "powerless" of the world!
Go figure.
Second, it contradicts the oft-heard view that israel is the "agressor". How can such a weak parasite be an agressor in the first place? Besides, isn't the fact that--if the claim is true--israel is in constant danger of being wiped out by the Arabs (which is why it "wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the USA" in the first place), rather good evidence that it's the defender, not the agressor?
Again, go figure!
Third, it contradicts the view (recently expressed here, among others, by "A Unique Person") that israel somehow "controls" the USA through the "zionists" in the governments and elsewhere. Quite apart from the fact that "the zionists control America" is merely an obvious rehash of the age-old "the jews control the world" libel, will you make up your mind: is israel a pathetic appendage of the USA, or is it its secret controller? It can hardly be both...
Once more, go figure!
...buuuuuuuuuut, who am I kidding. Logic has nothing to do with it. The one thing that's common to all these allegations is that they make israel look bad; whether they are true, or even self-consistent, is of no importance. The "israel won't exist without the US" is simply another item to add to the "how awful israel is" list.
Fine, without the US there will be no israel. And without the police coming to the house to stop an attempted murder, Ms. Jones would be dead now. And without modern medicine, Mr. Smith would be dead by now. What on earth does that have to do with Ms. Jones or Mr. Smith's morality? Can you imagine the defense lawyer in court: "Oh, c'mon, Ms. Jones, how can you claim you're morally better than my client? If the police had not come to save you from him, you'd be dead by now!". How about the doctor: "you really want me to treat Mr. Smith? He's such an awful person--why, he'd be dead by now if it wasn't for us! What a parasite!"
The whole thing is bizzare on for at least three different reasons
First of all, it equates weakness with moral inferiority--although, of course, ONLY when it comes to the jews; when any other group of people is weak and requires protection, they deserve pity and help, not contempt and demands that they should shut up because they "wouldn't exist if it wasn't for...".
This is fascism, pure and simple, in its starkest form: the belief that right equals might, and, conversly, that weakness is a moral fault. And who does it come from? The same people who claim to be the most anti-fascist and claimed to identify with the "powerless" of the world!
Go figure.
Second, it contradicts the oft-heard view that israel is the "agressor". How can such a weak parasite be an agressor in the first place? Besides, isn't the fact that--if the claim is true--israel is in constant danger of being wiped out by the Arabs (which is why it "wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the USA" in the first place), rather good evidence that it's the defender, not the agressor?
Again, go figure!
Third, it contradicts the view (recently expressed here, among others, by "A Unique Person") that israel somehow "controls" the USA through the "zionists" in the governments and elsewhere. Quite apart from the fact that "the zionists control America" is merely an obvious rehash of the age-old "the jews control the world" libel, will you make up your mind: is israel a pathetic appendage of the USA, or is it its secret controller? It can hardly be both...
Once more, go figure!
...buuuuuuuuuut, who am I kidding. Logic has nothing to do with it. The one thing that's common to all these allegations is that they make israel look bad; whether they are true, or even self-consistent, is of no importance. The "israel won't exist without the US" is simply another item to add to the "how awful israel is" list.