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The Ultimate 9/11 Thread on 9/11 Threads

Telltale Tom

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It seems to me that there are too many threads on 9/11 to have a conversation about anything. There are 8,240 threads about 9/11, so how can we avoid just repeating the same old crap and progress the real scientific discussion in search of truth, honesty and mutual understanding.

Even at the moment there are about 10 threads running simultaneously on ae911truth and how big and effective it is. Also when was the last time the fire threads dealt with anything to do with fire. Surely we need some sub-grouping. If we focus the technical discussion in a number of key areas then we could try and agree on what we agree and what we don't agree. I suggest that we follow ae911truth's excellent list of the main reasons that prove Controlled Demolition.

the Twin Towers' destruction exhibited all of the characteristics of destruction by explosives: (and some non-standard characteristics)

1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration

2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution

3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction

4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes

5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking

7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds

8. 1200-foot-dia. debris field: no "pancaked" floors found

9. Isolated explosive ejections 20 – 40 stories below demolition front

10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame

11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises

12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples

13. Evidence of explosives found in dust samples

14. No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire
 
I suggest that we follow ae911truth's excellent list of the main reasons that prove Controlled Demolition.

I suggest that you present evidence to prove the CD theory. Only crazy people come up with a claim then try to present evidence from a group of morons calling themselves A&E for 9/11 Truth!
 
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution

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5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

FANTASTIC! TellTale Tom, I think you are the greatest. However, if you wanted to really show how incompetent they are, you should put these right next to each other.
 
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution

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5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

FANTASTIC! TellTale Tom, I think you are the greatest. However, if you wanted to really show how incompetent they are, you should put these right next to each other.

I am just taking the list straight from the ae911truth web site. I believe it is in order of importance as our key point is the nearly always the freefall speed through the path of greatest resistance.

Some people say that falling through the path of greatest resistance is inconsistent with a 1200ft diameter debris field.

Tony Szamboti says that the ae911truth have now agreed that the towers fell at 2/3rds freefall speed, so we can expect an update shortly saying that the towers fell at over half of freefall speed.

It is important to consider each idea in isolation for the best perception...
 
I am just taking the list straight from the ae911truth web site. I believe it is in order of importance as our key point is the nearly always the freefall speed through the path of greatest resistance.

Some people say that falling through the path of greatest resistance is inconsistent with a 1200ft diameter debris field.

Tony Szamboti says that the ae911truth have now agreed that the towers fell at 2/3rds freefall speed, so we can expect an update shortly saying that the towers fell at over half of freefall speed.

It is important to consider each idea in isolation for the best perception...

Isn't that a repeat about "free fall speed"? Are you on a continuous loop or something?

70% of free fall isn't free fall at all. Where the hell's the other 30%?

Tony hasn't got a clue nor has he given anyone here evidence, plus he has no peer reviewed paper!

Half of free fall speed? It's like saying that a glass of water is half full or half empty.
 
1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration

1. Wrong. More energy would have been needed to topple the top sections over, or to move them horizontally away from the bottom sections to then fall freely, therefore they actually traveled through the path of least resistance, as they always will.

2. nearly, only if you consider 70%-75% "nearly". If that is the case...SO WHAT.

2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution

Improbably according to who? Seems to me, things fall down, they land pretty close to where they stood, things go "Kaboom" they can land anywhere...this is yet again another "argument from what I think should have happened".

3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction

??? well how long should it have taken to fall, by "non CD means" once the collapse started? 5 minutes? 30 minutes? this is ridiculous.

4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes

really? flashes of light and "explosions" were heard around the time of, and during the collapse of 2 110 storey skyscrapers that were just hit by jet airliners...well i'll be damned that is ****ing amazing.

5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

When you pound a big mac with your fist, where do the ingredients go, down, or out sideways?

6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking

Wrong. lots of photos with tonnes of concrete that was far from pulverized. most of the dust cloud is pulverized WALLBOARD. Please play again.

7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds

For the love of god, you have no idea what you are talking about. When a building falls down, WHAT EVER THE CAUSE, you will get a big billowing cloud of smoke.

8. 1200-foot-dia. debris field: no "pancaked" floors found

Debris field was in keeping with the collapse of a 110 storey building, regardless of cause. Thre were pancaked floors found, and I think someone here has pictures of them to prove it.

9. Isolated explosive ejections 20 – 40 stories below demolition front

Dylan Avery, is that you? Really, you are still trying to push the "Squibs" angle after it has been clearly debunked. air pressure from collapsing building blows out windows below...EOS.

10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame

Ya, so?

11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises

This is the best one yet. You are even brazen enough to try and quantify the lie into "several tons", proof please or shut up.

12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples

Wrong. No proof, just one poorly written, poorly carried out paper and analysis by a bunch of "wish we were" scientists way out of their fields.

13. Evidence of explosives found in dust samples

Wrong again. Many many analysis of the dust by REAL LABS with LEGITIMATE SCIENTISTS, without an AGENDA, found NO such proof.

14. No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire

No precedent for the "Big Bang" either, yet it happened.

NEXT!!!!

TAM:)
 
It is important to consider each idea in isolation for the best perception...

It is important to consider each idea in isolation for the best perception...

It is important to consider each idea in isolation for the best perception...

It is important to consider each idea in isolation for the best perception...

It is important to consider each idea in isolation for the best perception...

My god, that is beautiful in its stupidity... On the other hand, you certainly won't have to worry about the fact that the "facts" are completely contradictory.
 
Are truthers actually incapable of recalling the plane crashing into the building first?

oh, they know what happened.

they just like to regurgitate this strawman, in hopes that it will ring true in the ears of those who don't understand.
 
5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

This is still my all time favorite. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 feet....if this were true then smaller pieces of metalic debris should have been blown halfway across the planet. Evidently in twoofer land explosions only act on multi-ton steel sections. Do truthers even think about what they read/hear before they go around repeating it to everyone?
 
Hey, at least I got to work Chuck Norris and The Batman into it...

Considering that Batman always puts criminals away at Ayrkum Asylum, just think of all those poor Truthers out there that act like Joker. Yes Truthers, you are a bunch of clowns who are mentally insane to come up with your CT claims.
 

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