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The Truth Tour - right-wing radio hosts to go to Iraq "to report the good news"

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The Truth Tour - right-wing radio hosts to go to Iraq "to report the good news"

To report the good news on Operation Iraqi Freedom
you're not hearing from the old line news media.


Move America Forward is proud to announce that our founding Co-Chairs, The Honorable Howard Kaloogian (R-California, 1994-2000) and Melanie Morgan of San Francisco powerhouse radio station KSFO 560 AM, are leading a contingent of talk radio hosts from throughout the nation to Iraq.

The mission of the team MAF is leading to Baghdad: to get the news straight from our troops serving in Operation Iraqi Freedom, including the positive developments and successes they are achieving. This is the good news that the old-line liberal news media won't tell you about.

As MAF CO-Chair Melanie Morgan explains, "I've been contacted by so many members of our Armed Forces who say the truth that they witness first-hand every day in Iraq is different from much of what they see reported in the news media. I want to provide a direct and unfiltered forum for these soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen to tell the American people about the good work they are doing in Iraq."


"Our troops risk their lives every day so that we may enjoy liberty and peace. Yet, it seems that it makes a better news story to report only on the difficulties and challenges our troops face. It's time we provide an outlet for our brave troops to tell us about some of their accomplishments and the good news coming out of their valiant efforts in Iraq." -- Howard Kaloogian on the importance of this effort by Move America Forward
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I wonder if all soldiers will get a chance to air their opinions or only soldiers who agree with the Truth Tour team.
 
According to the librul media, these clowns will do all their reporting from inside the green zone.

Hope they make it safely there from the airport.


(I actually don't mean that ironically. I really do hope they make it safely.)
 
Silicon said:
According to the librul media, these clowns will do all their reporting from inside the green zone.
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Just like the MSM reporters?
 
a_unique_person said:
They don't all report from the Green Zone. However, those that do go outside are putting their lives at risk.
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:rolleyes:
 
Silicon said:
According to the librul media, these clowns will do all their reporting from inside the green zone.

Hope they make it safely there from the airport.


(I actually don't mean that ironically. I really do hope they make it safely.)
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The ride to the airport is going to be something they never forget. Have you seen Alien 2? Remember the marine lander that comes in almost on a vertical dive? That's about what it's like, they fly over high and then come in a steep, often spiraling descent to make a more difficult target to hit. Corkscrew landing.
Make sure you have a bag...

Google it: "descent into baghdad airport"
 
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Ladewig said:
I wonder if all soldiers will get a chance to air their opinions or only soldiers who agree with the Truth Tour team.
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I kind of doubt it, but if they did, I think you would see that dissenters are the exception rather than the rule. Think about it, it would be pretty hard to keep doing that job if you weren't proud of it, for starters. These aren't the drafted hippies of the last days of Vietnam who sit around smoking pot, hating the war and listening to Deep Purple and Jimi Hendrix.
 
I'm reminded of the little girl who, upon finding a pile of manure under the tree on Christmas morning, starts digging through it, claiming, "I know there's a pony in here somewhere!"
 
peptoabysmal said:
The ride to the airport is going to be something they never forget. Have you seen Alien 2? Remember the marine lander that comes in almost on a vertical dive? That's about what it's like, they fly over high and then come in a steep, often spiraling descent to make a more difficult target to hit. Corkscrew landing.
Make sure you have a bag...

Google it: "descent into baghdad airport"
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Yeah! It's called a combat landing. I was in a C-130 that did one of those for training once (as a passenger only). Heck of a ride. It's actually a fairly dangerous maneuver because you're keeping a lot of velocity on the aircraft while making fairly serious altitude and course change maneuvers to minimize time in the air "low and slow" on approach. There is not a lot of margin for error. Of course, it's significantly less dangerous than taking your time and presenting a really nice target for small arms fire and shoulder launched SA missiles.

I was only on a plane (once) that did it for practice. Don't envy those who will have the experience of going through it when someone might actually be trying to shoot at them.
 
Mycroft said:
:rolleyes:
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Mycroft, I don't really understand your attitude on this one either. If none of the so-called mainstream reporters left the green zone how do we get all this photage from outside the green zone? Certainly some journalists are taking those photos and video... so by definition if photo and video reporting is taking place on events outside the green zone, then some journalists have to be leaving the green zone. Right?
 
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peptoabysmal said:
I kind of doubt it, but if they did, I think you would see that dissenters are the exception rather than the rule. Think about it, it would be pretty hard to keep doing that job if you weren't proud of it, for starters. These aren't the drafted hippies of the last days of Vietnam who sit around smoking pot, hating the war and listening to Deep Purple and Jimi Hendrix.
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Roger that.

But on the flip side, a dissenter may feel the wrath of his superiors if he publicly airs his opinion. I would bet a lot of my retired military paycheck there is an official message re-circulating (I say "re-circulating" because I would also bet this isn't the first time such a message has made the rounds in Iraq) amongst the troops as we speak informing the troops that all media inquiries should be routed to official public relations representatives. I've personally seen such messages in my day.

Regular soldiers will be allowed to talk to the reporters, but every word will be carefully monitored by their supervisors.

Still, personal experience tells me there are very few dissenters in the ranks. Like you said, it would be pretty hard to do the job if you weren't proud of it.

I think that is something anti-war protesters fail to realize. By telling a soldier "I support you" but are against the war, you are trying to take away his pride. And that will piss him off toward the anti-war protestors. He won't buy into the "I support you" crap from them.
 
There are practical reasons you want to carefully monitor what Private Joe Schmuckatelli from Kansas says on the air, whether he is pro or con. Imagine if he was gung-ho about the war and said, "We should nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out!" on the air...
 
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Luke T. said:
I think that is something anti-war protesters fail to realize. By telling a soldier "I support you" but are against the war, you are trying to take away his pride. And that will piss him off toward the anti-war protestors. He won't buy into the "I support you" crap from them.
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Not to derail, but what is someone who is against the war but genuinely wants the American troops to win soon and come home safely? What would you do if you absolutely were against a war your son was fighting in?
 
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Snide said:
Not to derail, but what is someone who is against the war but genuinely wants the American troops to win soon and come home safely? What would you do if you absolutely were against a war your son was fighting in?
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I would absolutely, positively keep my opinions to myself around my son.
 
rdtjr said:
Yeah! It's called a combat landing. I was in a C-130 that did one of those for training once (as a passenger only). Heck of a ride. It's actually a fairly dangerous maneuver because you're keeping a lot of velocity on the aircraft while making fairly serious altitude and course change maneuvers to minimize time in the air "low and slow" on approach. There is not a lot of margin for error. Of course, it's significantly less dangerous than taking your time and presenting a really nice target for small arms fire and shoulder launched SA missiles.

I was only on a plane (once) that did it for practice. Don't envy those who will have the experience of going through it when someone might actually be trying to shoot at them.
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ooh-rah!
It's even better with flak. You should have gotten a set of wings for that.
 
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Luke T. said:
Roger that.

But on the flip side, a dissenter may feel the wrath of his superiors if he publicly airs his opinion. I would bet a lot of my retired military paycheck there is an official message re-circulating (I say "re-circulating" because I would also bet this isn't the first time such a message has made the rounds in Iraq) amongst the troops as we speak informing the troops that all media inquiries should be routed to official public relations representatives. I've personally seen such messages in my day.

Regular soldiers will be allowed to talk to the reporters, but every word will be carefully monitored by their supervisors.
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But, of course. It is the military, after all. I wouldn't epect any less.

Still, personal experience tells me there are very few dissenters in the ranks. Like you said, it would be pretty hard to do the job if you weren't proud of it.

I think that is something anti-war protesters fail to realize. By telling a soldier "I support you" but are against the war, you are trying to take away his pride. And that will piss him off toward the anti-war protestors. He won't buy into the "I support you" crap from them.
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Agreed. "I support you, but not what you are doing" is a limp d*cked backhand slap.
 
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Luke T. said:
I think that is something anti-war protesters fail to realize. By telling a soldier "I support you" but are against the war, you are trying to take away his pride. And that will piss him off toward the anti-war protestors. He won't buy into the "I support you" crap from them.
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So what should I say? I am grateful for those that volunteer to serve in the military. They put themselves in harms way to protect our freedoms. One of those freedoms is to disagree with the decisions of our leaders. I truly hope those that put their lives on the line for this country come home safe. I also vehemently disagree with the decision to invade Iraq and feel these brave people have been made pawns in an ugly political game. Am I supposed to stay silent? That sure sounds to me like that would play right into the game plan.

You see, the more I hear and read comments like this the more cynical I get. I can't help but feel Bush knew there were reasonable people like yourself who would take this stand, helping to make the war a no lose political bonanza. A bottomless source of opportunities to poke at peoples patriotism while painting those who disagree with broad negative strokes or maybe shame them into silence.

Do I really think Bush invaded Iraq for political purposes? I certainly don't want to think that. But when I see the reasons for the war shift, the excuses twist, the accusations against those who dissent mount and no willingness to engage in any constructive dialog regarding how the past few years has played out, I can't help but wonder.
 
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