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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 28

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This is a continuation from here. Feel free to quote posts in the old thread. Thanks.
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JoeMorgue said:
*Shrugs* Blacks are on average more religious than white people in the US, but they ain't in bed with the GOP.
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"Religious" covers a lot of ground. You can have faith in a Supreme Being and live according to your faith's core principles without giving up reason and judgment. The evangelicals are a small subset of "religious."

To digress, Stephen Colbert had a fascinating interview a few weeks ago with Francis Collins, the head of the NIH. He talked about how he reconciles being one of the world's leading scientists, as he is, with being an evangelical Christian, as he also is. Religious doesn't have to mean crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCuhIoJSXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi5Uf-Cr73U
 
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Crazy you've figured out a way to switch on and off is still crazy.

If I think I'm Napoleon but still manage to hold down a job as a scientist, the idea that I'm Napoleon didn't magically become less crazy.
 
Bob001 said:
That's another argument for rank-choice voting. To take an extreme example, in 2016 Trump was winning early primaries with around 20% of the vote because votes were split among 16 candidates. If the 80% of Repubs who didn't want him could have listed second, third etc. choices to be tabulated until someone won a majority, Trump would have been wiped out. If primaries today favor the extremists, rank-choice voting would support the moderates.
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Except he did even better in ranked choice voting as he was many people's second or third choice.
 
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‘The guy is NUTS’: Viewers stunned as Trump goes off on ‘insane’ Fox Business rant about fake Facebook ballot lockboxes

Matthew ChapmanJune 07, 2021

During a Fox Business interview with Stuart Varney on Monday, former President Donald Trump pushed a new conspiracy that Facebook paid hundreds of millions for "phony lockboxes" that accounted for "96 percent Biden votes," adding that, "They were like just dumping ballots, it was a phony deal!"

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-facebook-phony-lockboxes/
 
zorro99 said:
‘The guy is NUTS’: Viewers stunned as Trump goes off on ‘insane’ Fox Business rant about fake Facebook ballot lockboxes

Matthew ChapmanJune 07, 2021

During a Fox Business interview with Stuart Varney on Monday, former President Donald Trump pushed a new conspiracy that Facebook paid hundreds of millions for "phony lockboxes" that accounted for "96 percent Biden votes," adding that, "They were like just dumping ballots, it was a phony deal!"

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-facebook-phony-lockboxes/
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Not only is Trump nuts, but the people who follow him are nuts, too. Not clinically nuts like he is, but nuts in the common vernacular sense. Nuts and/or stupid and/or just despicable, self-serving SOBs like Cruz and McConnell et al.
 
Scotch tape on the tie.



That’s the guy who understands image.

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I think the weird leaning thing might be related to the lifts he wears in his shoes.

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I picture him less as a used-car salesman and more like a two-bit Multi-Level Marketing guy.

I imagine that he’d love to sell stocks over the phone, but doesn’t have the patience or the brain power to get any kind of license.
 
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Ladewig said:
Scotch tape on the tie.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_29760be529ac2b4f.jpg[/qimg]

That’s the guy who understands image.

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I think the weird leaning thing might be related to the lifts he wears in his shoes.

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I picture him less as a used-car salesman and more like a two-bit Multi-Level Marketing guy.

I imagine that he’d love to sell stocks over the phone, but doesn’t have the patience or the brain power to get any kind of license.
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I seriously doubt that's tape on the tie. For one thing, scotch tape does NOT work well at all for holding cloth together. For another, a man would wear a tie clip, not use scotch tape.

ETA: It turns out that Trump does tape the two ends of his tie together, but not to hold it down like a tie clip would (and should, in his case). But since you can see the tape, it obviously doesn't work well because, as I said, regular Scotch tape does not work well on cloth.

It was really that Trump, the future leader of the free world, tapes the tail of his tie to the back so that it doesn't move. GQ first spotted the tape in a photo of Trump getting off a plane in Indiana on Thursday.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-used-scotch-tape-on-his-tie-2016-12

Hard as it may be to believe, Donald Trump's transition from President-elect to actual President of the United States (shudder) did not bring with it a transition from sartorially challenged to stylistically capable. Case in point: The guy is still (still!) taping his damn tie together. Just take a look at this image from his inauguration today:
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https://www.esquire.com/style/news/a51174/donald-trump-tapes-his-tie/

I can admit when I'm wrong. It's something others should learn to do instead of digging in.
 
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This video that Tero posted as evidence that Trump wears diapers is from the same guy (Noel Casler) who makes all the other claims about Trump on The Apprentice: he was taking Adderall, he used the N-word all the time, Trump made 16 year old Ivanka give him a lap dance, etc. I don't find him credible considering no one else, not even anonymously, backs up his stories and there were lots of people on the set of the show.
 
Okay so what's the point? Dude in his 70s. If he is wearing adult diapers... and?

I get it, we want to tear down Trump's macho imagine but at a certain point this turns into pointless mockery.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Okay so what's the point? Dude in his 70s. If he is wearing adult diapers... and?

I get it, we want to tear down Trump's macho imagine but at a certain point this turns into pointless mockery.
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I don't mind the mockery as he deserves it. But let's mock him for what deserves mocking and not for things that aren't true like the pull up pants bit. God know there's enough real things he deserves mocking for.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Crazy you've figured out a way to switch on and off is still crazy.

If I think I'm Napoleon but still manage to hold down a job as a scientist, the idea that I'm Napoleon didn't magically become less crazy.
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But as a matter of fact you are not Napoleon, and we can prove it. Religious faith, on the other hand, is a matter of feeling and hope. No one can prove that there is not a Supreme Being, in whatever faith tradition you choose, and as that eminent scientist argued, faith is not incompatible with science and facts.
 
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Except he did even better in ranked choice voting as he was many people's second or third choice.
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I don't know if that's true. If your first choice in 2016 was Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or even Ted Cruz, I doubt Trump would have been your No. 2.
 
Stacyhs said:
I don't mind the mockery as he deserves it. But let's mock him for what deserves mocking and not for things that aren't true like the pull up pants bit. God know there's enough real things he deserves mocking for.
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The problem is you can't mock someone for something because they deserve it without mocking people who don't deserve it if they have the same feature.

Trump is not a bad president because of his weight, his combover, or any old man medical issues he has. He's a bad President because he's a total trolling sociopath.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The problem is you can't mock someone for something because they deserve it without mocking people who don't deserve it if they have the same feature.
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Yes, you can. "If they deserve it" is the key phrase. Biden has a bald spot. He isn't mocked for it because he doesn't try and hide it with a bad triple combover.

Trump is not a bad president because of his weight, his combover, or any old man medical issues he has. He's a bad President because he's a total trolling sociopath.
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No one said what he's mocked for is why he's a bad president.
 
Stacyhs said:
Yes, you can. "If they deserve it" is the key phrase. Biden has a bald spot. He isn't mocked for it because he doesn't try and hide it with a bad triple combover.



No one said what he's mocked for is why he's a bad president.
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No.

It's the same reason we shouldn't be calling female Republicans fat and ugly.
 
Bob001 said:
I don't know if that's true. If your first choice in 2016 was Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or even Ted Cruz, I doubt Trump would have been your No. 2.
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Yet he was for many people. I am not claiming anything about it makes rational sense but he really was the candidate that best represented the republican party in 2016.
 
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