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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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I don't know why Republicans pretend to care about the homeless, homelessness is a part of the "free market" capitalism model. In fact, it shows that capitalism is working as it should, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

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I don't know why Republicans pretend to care about the homeless, homelessness is a part of the "free market" capitalism model. In fact, it shows that capitalism is working as it should, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Trump is the first Republican I can ever recall even mentioning it. My experience is they could care less about it. It's kind of like healthcare, but worse. They have no desire to spend money on it. They'd rather have tax cuts.if they do talk about them, its because they're an eyesore or they don't like being panhandled.
 
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Trump Tweets

I guess Justin T doesn’t much like my making him pay up on NATO or Trade!

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President Trump’s cameo in “Home Alone 2: Lost In New York” was reportedly cut from showings of the movie on Canadian broadcasts. The network says it was to make room for commercials. http://bit.ly/2SuSSi2

The movie will never be the same! (just kidding)

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And this is why I've started pointing out that the slang "snowflake" was created by the left on social media to describe white conservatives - they freak out at the slightest thing, and then claim that they're the ones who put facts over feelings. That happens a lot - black twitter (or another marginalized group - "triggers" come from the mental health community) comes up with a term, and eventually it shows up, hopelessly mangled and incoherent, among the right.

(Seriously, what's "cancel culture" even supposed to mean?)
 
Trump Tweets

I guess Justin T doesn’t much like my making him pay up on NATO or Trade!

FOX 13 Tampa Bay
@FOX13News
President Trump’s cameo in “Home Alone 2: Lost In New York” was reportedly cut from showings of the movie on Canadian broadcasts. The network says it was to make room for commercials. http://bit.ly/2SuSSi2

The movie will never be the same! (just kidding)

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'Censorship': Fox & Friends Calls Out Canadian Broadcaster For Removing Trump From Home Alone http://mediaite.com/a/gfkuk

It’s the kind of thing a hypersensitive, petty tin-pot dictator would do. This is just another example of how Trump’s working theory of other minds and their motives is limited to parallels of the goings on inside his own big old meat head.
 
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Sure they do! They put a scatter-brained, unqualified Trump-ninny in charge of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, who had no idea recently that he was actually responsible for dealing with homelessness. Then his "solution" was basically to tell the homeless to pray to Jeebus, don't expect any more handouts, stop being lazy, get a real job, and stop cluttering up the doorstep of his shrine to himself home.

But conservatives can sometimes see sense...if it saves them money, of course.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-answer-to-homelessness/

Funny thing is... a heck of a lot of actually "liberal" approaches to problems end up saving (and helping to make) huge amounts of money in the long run. Not all, of course, but a lot more than many find to to be intuitive. They tend to require some upfront investment, after all, and many of the benefits are not as immediately direct and obvious. The principle that "it takes money to make money" is surprisingly relevant, though, to sum things up there. That also plays into why austerity tends to amplify many problems, potentially pretty much wiping out the benefits in practice.

On the other hand, with libertarians, supremacists (usually white), and those like Ailes having hijacked much of the "conservative" politicians, policies, and propaganda, it's not often that I see much coming from that group that's not horrendously short-sighted and not even remotely in line with the overall betterment of the country as a whole.

I don't know why Republicans pretend to care about the homeless, homelessness is a part of the "free market" capitalism model. In fact, it shows that capitalism is working as it should, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

I think that it's well worth looking at capitalism more generally, if you're going to bash it as generally as that. Capitalism is amazing in a bunch of goodways, after all, and that should not be forgotten. Of course, nor should its very significant flaws be overlooked or remain unaddressed, as many very, very rich people have been spending lots of money and engaging in unethical action to try to make sure happens for far too long.

Trump is the first Republican I can ever recall even mentioning it. My experience is they could care less about it. It's kind of like healthcare, but worse. They have no desire to spend money on it. They'd rather have tax cuts.if they do talk about them, its because they're an eyesore or they don't like being panhandled.

All Trump's doing is bashing those he's deemed enemies, like he's been doing all along. Given psychology, what he and those who jump on the bashing bandwagon are getting out of it is, generally, a sense of superiority and a boost of self-esteem related to one's social identity. The specifics largely don't matter and nor does a more in depth look at how valid the bashing is, when what actually matters to them is that self-esteem boost. Even with that going on though, it's worth poking at a couple somewhat relevant things.

Even the National Review is supporting Trump's impeachment now.

Also, the public support for conviction and removal is now apparently at about 55%. All is not lost yet, by a long shot.
 
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No, it's not. That's a column in a new section designed for writers dissenting from their editorial line.

*sighs* Sadly. I retract my statement about the National Review and offer up a notably weaker one. The National Review is allowing support for Trump's removal to be published under its name. It is still, of course, extremely anti-Democrat overall, and heavily invested in the right wing reality-optional bubble, by the look of it, but there also are bits of sanity peeking through.
 
Well, they have a "solution" for "the homeless problem" but that's not the same thing.

No. I disagree completely, there’s no profit in that. We should not look to Hitler when trying to figure out the President, we should look to Charles Dickens.

When AChristmas Carol’s Scrooge is asked to donate money to the poor, the following exchange takes place
“Are there no prisons?"
"Plenty of prisons..."
"And the Union workhouses." demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"
"Both very busy, sir..."
"Those who are badly off must go there."
"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."
"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."
There’s no money in murdering the poor. But if work houses could be brought back, it would be exactly the kind of thing PDJT and his backers would love. Folks in debt and folks unable to succeed in the world are locked up (with their kids) and are told there will work for a dollar or so each day. But that dollar will go directly to the person holding the debt or to the government.

Privatized prisons are a big step in this direction, but you cannot lock up the kids of people in jail for pot possession. How much more money could be made for convicting them of a felony,letting them go, watch them try to find a job, and then sweep the whole family into a workhouse?

The costs of Public education drops, the costs of federal school lunch subsidies drops. The”right” people make money and their property values increase as the “wrong” people are moved out of sight.

As I finish writing, I find myself unsure how much was tongue-in-cheek and how much was serious.

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Hey we should be glad if they turn to Divkens. What if they should turn to Jonathan Swift’s remedies for the poor.
 
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And this is why I've started pointing out that the slang "snowflake" was created by the left on social media to describe white conservatives - they freak out at the slightest thing, and then claim that they're the ones who put facts over feelings. That happens a lot - black twitter (or another marginalized group - "triggers" come from the mental health community) comes up with a term, and eventually it shows up, hopelessly mangled and incoherent, among the right.

(Seriously, what's "cancel culture" even supposed to mean?)
"Fake news" is another example, of course. They love to hijack words and change their meaning entirely.
 
Trump Tweets

I guess Justin T doesn’t much like my making him pay up on NATO or Trade!

FOX 13 Tampa Bay
@FOX13News
President Trump’s cameo in “Home Alone 2: Lost In New York” was reportedly cut from showings of the movie on Canadian broadcasts. The network says it was to make room for commercials. http://bit.ly/2SuSSi2

The movie will never be the same! (just kidding)

Mediaite
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'Censorship': Fox & Friends Calls Out Canadian Broadcaster For Removing Trump From Home Alone http://mediaite.com/a/gfkuk


Too bad Trump's cameo has been removed from their broadcast of the film since 2014. Don't let facts get in the way of a good persecution complex.
 
Too bad Trump's cameo has been removed from their broadcast of the film since 2014. Don't let facts get in the way of a good persecution complex.

There you go. Bringing facts into the discussion. Republicans are like Christians. They have no interest in facts.
 
It is weird to see how the demarcation line between "Trump the President" and "Trump the Celebrity" is going to be drawn as time goes on, not helped by the fact that Trump himself sees no distinction between the two. Reagan might have been an actor turned President but he didn't bring Bonzo the Chimp with him to White House.

Trump was a pop culture fixture in a lot of the 80s. It's not on the level of, say, how much of a hole Michael Jackson would leave if public sentiment decided the things he did were worth "unpersoning" him but it is still interesting.
 
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was reading a bit of analysis of Romeo and Juliet1 and found this idea:

Tybalt's notion of honour is all bound up in the masculine code of revenge: if he doesn't fight back against the teeniest, tiniest little insult, then his reputation as a man is in danger.​

(1) I stood looking at two search engine results (neither of which had anything to do withRomeo and Juliet) and I chose a path - despite knowing how way leads on to way
 
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was reading a bit of analysis of Romeo and Juliet[super]1[/super] and found this idea:

Tybalt's notion of honour is all bound up in the masculine code of revenge: if he doesn't fight back against the teeniest, tiniest little insult, then his reputation as a man is in danger.​

(1) I stood looking at two search engine results and I chose a path - despite knowing how way leads on to way

I've stated before that with Trump there's no person there, just a persona, a collection of affects and character traits.

Trump doesn't have a self image in the way you or me do. He's a projected self image. And he treats that self imagine like a trademark, if you don't defend, even against attacks that are pointless, you risk losing it.
 
Too bad Trump's cameo has been removed from their broadcast of the film since 2014. Don't let facts get in the way of a good persecution complex.


Fox News' The Five conveniently omits the fact that the cuts were made well before Little Donnie Two Scoops came down the escalator. Mustn't let facts gum up the outrage machine.

First two minutes of https://youtu.be/hTdffG24XNQ

ETA: Notice the absurdity of Trump taking time to help a child.
 
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California leads the nation, by far, in both the number of homeless people, and the percentage increase in the homeless population - two terrible stats. Crazy Nancy should focus on that in her very down district, and helping her incompetent governor with the big homeless problem!
Trump seems to forget. Homelessness is his problem too.
Not to mention the fact that as a congress-critter, Pelosi has very little ability to address the situation that her constituents are under. (What does Trump expect her to do? Personally go to every homeless person in her district to try to find them an apartment?)

She could push for legislation that might help the problem, but unless Moscow Mitch decides to get on board it would be a waste of effort.

The easiest response is simply to confiscate the property of wealthy investors that are buying apartments and keeping them empty in order to drive up the prices of remaining housing, and provide them to those homeless who are can be reasonably trusted not to, say, tear the copper out of the walls. Well, this plus government-provided mental health care, and full funding of battered women's (and any other genre - men, intersex, etc.) shelters.
Don't be silly.

The best solution is more tax cuts. I'm sure once taxes are sufficiently low, all those homeless people will be able to afford to buy a house.
 
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